What you guys think that are OP compositions in Bot Lane, with the new changes in patch 5.22. Please write your thoughts.
Personally I believe Zilean+Cait is a pretty OP combo, since they can chain CC's and poke pretty well, aside from setting up great ganks and the great range Cait has. 
TeCoolMage1 votesSupport Kindred/Ashe and ADC Kog'Maw, Kalista or Vayne
No I'm not making an ADC OP joke, they're pretty good, as Ashe provides all the needed utility of sight and peeling through assisted kiting, and Kindred has that ulti that turns Kalista's rend into a fatality from Mortal Kombat or something
THE RlVER KlNG1 votesSupport Kindred/Ashe and ADC Kog'Maw, Kalista or Vayne
No I'm not making an ADC OP joke, they're pretty good, as Ashe provides all the needed utility of sight and peeling through assisted kiting, and Kindred has that ulti that turns Kalista's rend into a fatality from Mortal Kombat or something
Except any tank will out scale that duo at all points of the game. You take a Naut, a Braum, a Tahm, and their cc and tankiness will nullify all that damage.
TeCoolMage1 voteswhich one specifically? Kalista with ashe may be outscaled but definitely not Kog'Maw or Vayne regardless of support
THE RlVER KlNG1 voteswhich one specifically? Kalista with ashe may be outscaled but definitely not Kog'Maw or Vayne regardless of support
A tank lr utility mage like Lulu or Zilean will be much more valuable than 2 ADC's sharing cs or one not doing any damage OR tanky either OR provide utility. I don't think the people who downvoted me understand the meaning of support.
TeCoolMage1 votesYou can't compare them at all, it's like saying Kog'Maw is the ADC you should lock in whenever possible because he's 'more valuable' than the other ADCs.
And supports don't take CS. I don't think you're getting the point of a support marksman at all, Kindred and Ashe have utility regardless of their scaling so which make them good picks for specific match ups and lane partners. That allows them to pick up black cleaver with tank items or whatever the team needs.
If they can cover the ADCs weakness (lack of sustain, peel, or even damage), that makes them a good support, things like gold reliability are a bonus, and are only required if it directly affects their ability to work well with an ADC (let's say Janna had 0% on her slows and scaled with a lot of AP, that would bar her from working with early game slow reliant ADCs very well)
Kindred has sustain and zoning along with HP tank shredding that puts her in good terms with ADCs that shred armour tanks, and require space to position well, or require a buildup in damage.
Ashe has her W slow, E vision control, passive slow, and ultimate stun. Make her a tank and she can't be ignored by champs that don't have a huge dash or blink.
Lulu has a lot of defensive buffs for fighting back and soaking damage, Zilean has level transferring, semi reliable AoE stuns with a slow or movement speed buff to a single target, but that doesn't mean they're the only choices.
Meep Man1 votes
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