Grievous wounds nerf

xXSexMaster69Xx·Nov 12, 2015·4 votes·1,832 views

Ok so after playing a series of ranked and normal games since this new patch rolled out, I've noticed how absolutely broken soraka is now that her healing is uncounterable as long as she plays somewhat smart and / or has a team that doesn't let the enemy dive her. I find it hard to see the logic in this grievous wounds nerf, soraka was already strong before this patch rolled about but atleast she was somewhat counterable with ignite when it was up. I'm trying to think of other champions that would be the reason for this change but honestly I can't think of a single champion who's main role is healing besides soraka. Jannas ult was nerfed somewhere below fioras ult heal (lol) and nami + alistar are hardly the kind of burst healers who would be hurt too much by a short duration ignite heal reduction debuff. I get that the new executioners calling items would hurt a lot but right now it doesn't seem to be very strong except against mundo or something like that while the only game I've seen soraka lose is when you have literally all 5 people ganking her lane early on and I don't think that's really an acceptable "counter" for one champion.

14 Comments

KICK OUT AT 2Nov 12, 20151 votes

Soraka, nami, and sona are super dominant right now.

xXSexMaster69XxNov 12, 20151 votes

Nami and Sona you can deal with atleast, their healing isn't so big that u can't kill through it atleast but Soraka just makes primary targets almost unkillable.

KICK OUT AT 2Nov 12, 20151 votes

Yeah they aren't healing machines like soraka but they bring big damage and/or cc along with big heals.

137434Nov 12, 20151 votes

Soraka, unlike most supports, should be your primary target in fights. Unless you have an opportune time/ability to quickly burst down the carries.

xXSexMaster69XxNov 12, 20152 votes

Yea but it doesn't mean you can get to her eventhough she would be your priority target... Every soraka main knows she will be the primary target and plays accordingly. You need a tremendous amount of dive to get her if she plays well and even when you do manage to kill her, you've most likely spent the majority of your damage to dive a support and might be somewhat screwed.

BattleOxeNov 12, 20151 votes

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Yea but it doesn't mean you can get to her eventhough she would be your priority target... Every soraka main knows she will be the primary target and plays accordingly. You need a tremendous amount of dive to get her if she plays well and even when you do manage to kill her, you've most likely spent the majority of your damage to dive a support and might be somewhat screwed.

Yeah, this always bugged me out

BattleOxeNov 12, 20151 votes

Well, DrMundo Swain Aatrox Volibear Olaf Trundle and Fiddlesticks are all screwed, while Nasus Vladimir Yorick Renekton Maokai Gragas Darius will all suffer quite a bit There are many champions there. On the other hand Soraka got out of control. Was there really a need for that?

xXSexMaster69XxNov 12, 20151 votes

Yea buffing healing from other sources while adding a pretty easy to build item to counter self healing seems to screw a lot of champions, most of which didn't need to be nerfed, while it only really buffs soraka hard and she didn't really need buffing either. I mean sure it also buffs other champions with healing (Nami, Janna, Sona, Taric etc.) But healing was never the primary purpose of those champions anyways and ignite / other grevious wounds debuffs didn't really hurt them that much to begin with.

BattleOxeNov 12, 20151 votes

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Yea buffing healing from other sources while adding a pretty easy to build item to counter self healing seems to screw a lot of champions, most of which didn't need to be nerfed, while it only really buffs soraka hard and she didn't really need buffing either. I mean sure it also buffs other champions with healing (Nami, Janna, Sona, Taric etc.) But healing was never the primary purpose of those champions anyways and ignite / other grevious wounds debuffs didn't really hurt them that much to begin with.

AP janna though :(

xXSexMaster69XxNov 12, 20151 votes

Yea I used to build my support janna almost full AP too but then they nerfed the ratio a bit and they introduced zeke's ferevor and made my favorite ap janna item Mejais drop way too many stacks when dying to make it reliable :<

Maximum MordeNov 12, 20151 votes

Ignite was rarely used anyway and her ult already ignored grevious wounds. I fail to see how this actually did much for Soraka especially since people should be building Giantslayer not the grevious wounds one. Soraka was already annoying as fuck and this didn't change a damn thing and you know it.

P.S. AOE is the counter to Soraka if you can't dive her as aoe quickly overwhelms her healing output. If you cant dive and don't have AOE, then you got counterpicked. Just like when people complain about Master Yi(devourer aside), but their team doesn't have CC. It's just the niche these champions thrive in.

xXSexMaster69XxNov 12, 20151 votes

reducing soraka heals by 50% is a really really big deal lol... And aoe is not exactly a reliable strategy since it requires the enemy team to first group up and then be immobile enough to not be able to avoid your aoe. It's not that common that both conditions are met very often in the game.

Maximum MordeNov 12, 20151 votes

If it was uncommon champions like Brand, Amumu, Annie, Orianna, Morgana and many others would be useless. But they aren't because it's pretty common to nail more than one person with aoe. Hitting all 5 is a tall order, but 2 or 3 is pretty damn common.

I totally agree with you that Soraka is a pain in my ass, just not for the same reasons you have.

xXSexMaster69XxNov 12, 20151 votes

well brand is the only pure aoe champion without any other reason to pick him out of all of those that u mentioned and he is really rare atleast where I play. Amumu and annie are both "popular" because of their instant aoe crowd control capabilities, morgana is played as a support, nothing to do with her aoe and orianna is just a really safe and strong pick in laning phase with a lot of utility.