Why remove Poacher's dirk? I've been building it almost every game.

Gonna Bug You·Dec 5, 2018·4 votes·2,661 views

So why remove poacher's dirk? I love to do counter jungling if I am not able to do ganks due to laners not making lanes gankable or we just had a bad comp overall where we cant 2v2 etc. Poacher's dirk has turned games around sometimes because I can finish 2 poachers and get a 1-2 items lead and then I 1 shot people with kayn, kha for example. Enemy focused on lanes and I focused on clearing their jungle camps and getting an item lead regardless. It's a strategy and I preferred to be efficient in jungle. Not doing pointless ganks when lanes are not gankable.

You still keep cull and mejais in game? Poachers dirk has clear advantages and disadvantages. I see a lot of people buying mejais when they shouldnt either and they waste their gold. Why not remove these noob traps then also?

Please revert this change and bring back poachers.

19 Comments

mack9112Dec 5, 20185 votes

The champions that build dirk should in reality be building tiamat first since it helps you clear faster and dual better.

The item was a noob trap

what you deserveDec 5, 20182 votes

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The champions that build dirk should in reality be building tiamat first since it helps you clear faster and dual better.

The item was a noob trap

A "noob trap" that I had like an 80% winrate with abusing. Just because people who are bad at the game don't know how to use something properly, that means it should be removed? Thank god we're getting Yasuo and Lee Sin taken out of the game, then.

mack9112Dec 5, 20182 votes

I'm sorry man but in all ways it was inefficient to use as a first back item tiamat is just the better choice.

If dirk is not taken as the first item it continues to devalue.

Look at is as a way to optimize your build further

what you deserveDec 5, 20182 votes

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I'm sorry man but in all ways it was inefficient to use as a first back item tiamat is just the better choice.

If dirk is not taken as the first item it continues to devalue.

Look at is as a way to optimize your build further I out-path the enemy jungle enough that I can usually stack multiple dirks in a single game, and often have enough for both tiamat and poacher's on my first back.

mack9112Dec 5, 20181 votes

step back for a sec and realise if you have that much gold on your first back that is not a regular match

what you deserveDec 9, 20182 votes

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step back for a sec and realise if you have that much gold on your first back that is not a regular match

guess i've never played a regular match lol

mack9112Dec 9, 20181 votes

Your first back as a jungler is always with 2200 gold ?

what you deserveDec 11, 20181 votes

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Your first back as a jungler is always with 2200 gold ?

closer to 2000, but i start with machete + bead

mack9112Dec 11, 20183 votes

You realise how crazy that sounds...

what you deserveDec 12, 20181 votes

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You realise how crazy that sounds...

yeah i'm good at league of legends thanks

mack9112Dec 12, 20183 votes

But that is so inefficient ... Either you have 3 kills and cleared your jungle twice before backing or cleared your jungle 3 And a half times before backing every time .

In normal games that will not happen .

RuatassarMar 19, 20192 votes

hahahaha buddy you've been playing since s5 and you're hardstuck plat 4 with a negative winrate. you're not good so relax.

InfernapeMar 19, 20193 votes

You do realise you just necroed a thread that's three months old?

Doctor ShabbosJun 15, 20191 votes

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I'm sorry man but in all ways it was inefficient to use as a first back item tiamat is just the better choice.

If dirk is not taken as the first item it continues to devalue.

Look at is as a way to optimize your build further

I really do think that they removed the item because people WERE building it and using it to get ahead without direct interaction. When you think about all the other so-called "noob traps" - why pick on this situationally decent and venerable item?

Bring it back.

mack9112Jun 15, 20191 votes

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I really do think that they removed the item because people WERE building it and using it to get ahead without direct interaction. When you think about all the other so-called "noob traps" - why pick on this situationally decent and venerable item?

Bring it back.

But it didn’t.

I never played a match where the enemy jungler built it and won off of it.

mack9112Jun 15, 20191 votes

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But it didn’t.

I never played a match where the enemy jungler built it and won off of it.

Kinda late reply my man

Doctor ShabbosJun 15, 20191 votes

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Kinda late reply my man

I've been thinking about it. And six months later, I still miss it.

Doctor ShabbosJun 15, 20191 votes

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But it didn’t.

I never played a match where the enemy jungler built it and won off of it.

I won plenty of games jungling myself and building it. I also built it as a laner. It was a "win-more" item.

The thigh guyDec 9, 20182 votes

The only champ I built it on was kayn. Mostly due to being able to steal camps so fast. So I see it as a direct nerf to kayn which makes me kinda sad.

They removed poachers dirk because no one build it. Yet we have ohmwrecker, hextech glp, and witts end. All of which are rarely build if at all.