Hello Riot maybe you want to nerf Zoe? Beacouse her damage is too good for her q and her cooldowns are pretty low. I played with Viktor against Zoe and at 6 lvl she just one shoted me with her q. She was 0/0/0 and she just one snipe with her q and i died. Thanks for your attention.
KylerEzraStar13 votesAs it stands, if you are hit with Zoe's Sleepy Trouble Bubble, and thus become drowsy, then Morg Black Shield's you, the Black Shield will not prevent the sleep condition. [zombie-brand-mindblown] I find this to be ridiculous and would be a good thing for Riot to fix.
BubbaV2 votesAs it stands, if you are hit with Zoe's Sleepy Trouble Bubble, and thus become drowsy, then Morg Black Shield's you, the Black Shield will not prevent the sleep condition. [zombie-brand-mindblown] I find this to be ridiculous and would be a good thing for Riot to fix.
morg black shield doesnt remove current cc effects (it's not a cleanse)
ImPhinite2 votesAnd QSS does not remove the ticks before u get put into the sleep state either. So which part would u like riot to fix?
Gives No Lux2 votesWhichever part allows him to blame anything but his own skills.
MysticDreams123 votesMorg has to shield you before you are hit with the bubble. Won't block if the effect is already on you.
KylerEzraStar5 votesMorg has to shield you before you are hit with the bubble. Won't block if the effect is already on you.
I already stated this. .-. And I know the black shield is not a cleanse. Though from the way they had worded it, I am under the impression that Drowsy and Sleep are different status effects.
LXII5 votesThey def are and should be treated as such.
Sona Ping1 votesYou have to have the Black Shield on before you get hit by CC abilities. Black Shield blocks CC, it does not cleanse it.
"But I am under the impression that it should." Game mechanics are not obligated to conform to wrong impressions. We don't have Silences negating ability effects, Nasus gaining stacks from every strike, or Thresh using the Relic Shields execution effect because the game does not work that way.
KylerEzraStar1 votesUm. Thresh is ranged...
Sona Ping1 votesUm. Thresh is ranged...
I know that. If you were to actually read what I wrote, that is PRECISELY the reason I used such an example.
KylerEzraStar1 votesThat is comparing "apples" and "oranges." They should state that it is one thing. Not say that one applies the other. Otherwise, they need to fix the Morg interactions. Has less to do with actual misconceptions and literal inconsistencies in game text.
WATA SO HOT6 votesNerf zoe. I've been playing since season 2. This is another warwick / kog maw thing, but with nearly zero outplay potential. It is a joke, and she is not difficult to play. Look at her win rate. Nerf her riot, your sales won't diminish too much.
SpaceCraftYo5 votesPlease nerf zoe BUSTED
I Love C0CK4 votesyes please nerf this champion. Her damage is invincible especially her stun. IT's not fair for others
XxLollyPopxX1 votesTOTALLY AGREE. Ever fucking ability can go through the walls and go wayyyyy to far. Thank god there are some competent people in here.
Barkley4 votesShe's pretty broken if you ask me. Her bubble is kinda hard to see, and the length of the CC on it is ridiculous for something that also DOUBLES her damage. If its gonna stun me for a long time, fine. If its gonna double her damage, fine. But how the hell am I supposed to do anything if it stuns me forever AND doubles her damage?
Its basically a death sentence if you get hit by her sleep, unless you buy a QSS or zhonyas, but she can one-shot you LOOOONG before you have access to those items.
By the time you have any meaningful way to counterplay her kit, she's already 10/0.
Zybertooth1 votesNeeds a forecast animation like Panth/Zac if you ask me
hlfahsdkuf3233 votesI really don't understand why riot released this champion, knowing how incredibly op she is, pbe is for testing champs and new game mechanics. everyone knew from playing pbe that this champ is absolutely busted, not a single one of her cooldowns go above 15 seconds and her kit is so good. i played a game as syndra against zoe, at 10 minutes in i had 77 cs and she had 28 cs and was 0/0/0, all she did the entire lane phase was either afk under tower or roam and get nothing out of it. for any other champ in this game failed roams and 28 cs is very tragic and there isnt much you can do from that loss, but this zoe managed to one shot me at 28 cs and 0/0/0 at level six and i couldn't do anything because she did it all from range. this is a huge problem as i should have crushed her in that lane with a 50+ cs lead
one thing is for sure, her damage should have stayed in pbe, riot should have never released this monster into solo q.
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
RoyalAxel2 votesriot is running out of idea,s when they released tali and sol, you know they were good champs that you take the time to learn and play, but now, out of ideas, they just but op things in new champs and release them, kayn walk through walls, zoe can steal spells, Its more of getting like wtf riot were you thinking instead of thats cool. they need to go back to those roots and make champs and wow us not wow....... us
XxLollyPopxX2 votesAh so what I see from your comment is you don't find this champion bother some... Kayn is counterable Zoe has no counter and is Broken beyond repair... There was no reason to release this champion.
0cool13 votesThe fact that Zoe was released as is makes me pretty angry at riot. The fact that this even got shipped out as is, you mean to tell me not one of the testers didn't see the damage she did. Also her kit? You gave her a 2 second stun that if you shoot over terrain it goes exponentially farther? And then if you miss it makes an aoe stun trap for more opportunities to stun? her q reaches astronomical (lol) ranges? I could complain more about her w but its unique i guess. Guess i just gota ban her regardless until the one smart one at riot decides "WOW WE MADE A MISTAKE". Oh wait, this happens everytime except orn.
SirΤeemο2 votesPLUS only 2 of her abilities give damage ... so if they nerf her Q will make her useless
XxLollyPopxX1 votes"SirTeemo" u srs... stun for 4 fucking seconds then R, Q ANDDDD 1 SHOT??????????????????????????
67187435DEL11 votesFor 2 sec you maggot. Easy dodgeable E... if you are idiot and cant put wards to jungle bcs her key is... E from walls Q aim R Q AA oneshot. Ty to get close with melee to her... you will see her squishy. Btw... rito must repair hitboxes bcs anytimes their px aim really sucks. Remember Q damage is better with range... Q cant fly throught minions try to fcking hide. E too... DON'T REALLY DON'T USE FKING SUMMS (NO IGNITE,TP) NEAR HER... if you are not retard, you will rekt her easily... IF YOU ARE FCKING STUPID FOOL YOU WILL NEVER CAN PLAY VS HER. ZOE REALLY DOESN'T NEED NERF -,- SHE IS BALANCED AND HIGH SKILL CAP, BUT ALL OF YOU ONLY CRYING TO RIOT :) Learn to play and stop Cry. Btw... if you camp her with jg on mid... she lose easily %%%gots
Exit12 votesHer early game is pretty shit since she doesn't have any real form of escape. Shut down her early game or just burst her down before she can burst you. At all costs dodge that E. In most cases it's worth to use flash to dodge her E. She indeed has out of world damage on her E Q, but she has nothing to escape gangs, any assassin jungler like kha zix or rengar can one shot her before she can do anything or junglers with high mobility like lee sin, should be deadly againits her. Once she uses her ult you can 100% know where she's gonna appear in next one second so just take advantage of that. She is extremely squishy so midlaners like syndra or zed that can burst her quickly are good too. Zed especially since he can dodge most of her spells. Ahri and leblanc are pretty fine too with theirs high burst and mobility. Always stand behind minions and keep good vision of her so she can't E you through wall. Keep all this in mind and you should be fine. I think it's pretty early to say that she needs nerf, she was on the live servers just for few days and players don't know how to counter her. Give it few days and then discuss if she really needs to be nerfed or not.
XxLollyPopxX4 votesstfu... her abilities go through walls... her stun lasts way too long... and she is able to one shot. I dont even wanna imagine this champ in urf mode. Don't talk if you can't see her as the OP champ she is...
hlfahsdkuf3234 votesThis champ is pretty much already playing in urf mode lol
ImPhinite2 votesA few days have passed. We all think she needs a nerf. It's too obvious.
Gives No Lux2 votesA few days have passed. We all think she needs a nerf. It's too obvious.
Nah, I don't think she needs a nerf so your statement is false, by extension your logic is false so in reality she's either fine or needs a buff.
jojo is not 5duk2 votesZoe's only damage is her q. If riot nefs her q, what can zoe do? Thats all she can do.
RoyalAxel2 votesno.... her E does like 230 dmg pre level 10 and its a cc ability that she spams every 3-6 seconds, she needs to be nerfed for that part of her kit too
Psyrix1 voteswith 40% CDR it's an 8.4 sec CD, conditionally if it is triggered it's a 5.88 sec CD (single target) the radius really isn't that big, the only thing i'd change if anything would be the duration it's on the ground as a trap, and even then It'd only be a small nerf to like 3 seconds from 4, she needs some form of zone control since her main dmg spells are thin skillshots
UnknownTerritory2 votesYes she needs alot of nerf...running around the map and spamming her combo dealing insane amounts of damage..HER cooldown on R is just too little
Kitsunes Lust2 votesSo my thoughts.
Q: NERF THE FUCK. Yeah shes burst. But max range which is easy to get for many, causes over 700 damage + 165% of ap. 165! Wtf? Overall thats the highest damage out of ANY spell in the game by shit ton. I mean yeah there fiddlesticks, but thats DoT, and kat too. But this ia crazy. At most, make it cap at 450 +70% AP. W: tbh this is fine. Its cool unique and provides good utility, but maybe limit it to prevent duplicates. Ex: if you pick up a flash and use it, you cannot pick up another flash (except for her own) immediatly after. Zoe is childish and foolish. She easily gets bored. So make it where zoe is like "this again? Bo-ring!" E: tbh the duration is too long and the damage is too high. Instead, make it scaling stun duration (0.5/1/1.5/1.75/2 seconds), much like how ahri's charm duration increases per rank. And instead of Sleeping targets taking bonus true damage equal to the post-mitigation damage they take from the next attack or ability to hit them, remove the true damage entirely and turn it into bonus magic damage equal to the ap bonus of sleepy bubble trouble (40% ap), turning it into 220(80% AP), only if activated by More Sparkles!
Thats jist my thought
Penguin Walker222 votesI agree shes a bit too strong.
The problem is her E. The true damage is toohigh. Heres an idea, whe ne is lvl 1 the pop on her asleep only deals 20% true dmg, then scales with 20% each
lvl up to 100%. Just liek camille.
Prothotype2 votesI can handle a midlane zoe ( as a former zed main ), but support zoe just straight up oneshots any adc after hitting her bubble even pre lv6. Nice part is she can also spam it every few seconds so it's not like you only get killed by a good zoe, but any zoe can hit 1 out of 10 bubbles and that is enough for a guarranteed kill even with flash/heal up if the enemy carry follows up. You would say that's also the case with a good blitz hook but then again blitzcrank lv6 can't just pop up behind minions for 1 second to close range stun you. Honestly don't know how this came trough pbe, never witnesses as many disconnects because a single champ until now. Just let there be any sort of counterplay to this ( maybe making her not portal back if hit in R, halving Q damage ? ) because she's either solo winning games or permabanned at the moment.
jo99011 votesI've played her a bit and i can say, in my opinion, that she isn't THAT op. She does need some balancing, but a good chunk of her damage comes from her q. her q can be dodged with a little effort half the time. And keep in mind that she isn't even out yet, so chill with the call for nerfs this prematurely.
blobfjsh4 votessame.... :)
LXII13 votesDodging her Q isn't the issue dodging her insanely fast E that can also travel light-years over walls THEN getting hit by Q is.
I've played a ton of Zoe and I never fail to one shot somebody at any stage of the game if my E lands. I even dc'd from a game, came back 5 minutes later with only 2 items and still one shot everyone and carried the game. That's not me being good, that's Zoe being bullshit to play against.
That being said, I think a slight cooldown nerf on E might be all that's needed. Maybe even take off one of the damage instances on it (preferably the first one) and she's fine. As it stands though she's definitely broken and after a week or two of testing I wouldn't really consider this "premature".
SilentKillerGoku1 votesLOL Riot if this guys statement isn't a sign, I don't know what could be. There have obviously been new champions enter the game and dominate but be nerfed after a trial period. This one clearly has dominated far harder than any of the other new releases in my opinion and raised the most controversy while still not receiving a nerf after it has been some time. I feel this champ either needs to have a strong nerf, or perhaps just a complete rework as her kit really is unfair to play against if you know what you are doing. There is little risk in getting jumped on do to your insane ranged on your e and q, and the amount of flashes I have seen a zoe pick up and use in one fight alone seems a bit ridiculous. In my opinion if you give her all these great abilities I feel like she should at least lack mobility which she doesn't because of her r and countless flashes, so its very hard to lock her down in teamfights and even if you manage to finally get her, normally you have wasted too much in trying to kill her that your team wont be able to win the fight. However, if you ignore her and she lands one e from god knows how far away, you can basically consider yourself dead. Truthfully her e is very hard to avoid during a team fight as it lasts for such a long time and she is going to have multiple attempts to hit you if the fight drags out, also no ones poke for fights even really comes close to her as well as her burst potential when she hits one q. I'm sorry but league was a lot more enjoyable for me without having to worry about a zoe pick and carry in every ranked game if I don't ban her or my team doesn't play her.
LuthianDelphi1 votesI think her damage is fine, mainly because it can all be blocked by people and or minions however her sleepy bubble lasts a really long time and it lasts on the ground a good amount of time as well, I think because of its low CD and high range that she would be a lot less trouble to play against if the duration of it wasn't quiet so long
Kitsunes Lust1 votesDuring laning phase yes. But what about jg fights and aptly mid-late game where minions are "non existant"
ImPhinite1 votesHer CC duration should be nerfed 100%.. Damage is fine, ult is fine, because there is counter play for her ult. On the other hand, her CC is just terribly designed.. I mean huge range with high CC duration and it leaves a trap on the ground forever? please.. It's like Viktor W stun+Ziggs E damage+Bard ult range c'mon riot. Either lower the sleep duration or lower duration of the trap left on the ground, or even make it smaller please..
Edit: you know what. I'm just gonna play Zoe until Riot realizes she's a problem. lol
Zybertooth1 votesIf Tahm eats someone whom is slept, he and them go to sleep and both take double dmg..... I miss when this game was made and tested by game designers...
Achiliz1 votesSo, there you go 25 reasons to nerf Zoe, she is banned in 90% of all games for a reason, dont you think you made a liiitle mistake Riot Games? :D
I know that you know how broken she is but for some reason you dont want to nerf her yet, like wtf.
I know you have in plan to nerf her a lot but please hurry up with it, idk what to ban, Brand, Zoe, Ornn... Since my team is banning ezreal and jhin and xin and all other random champions but it doesnt even matter, you know what you should do in next patch..
[sg-zephyr] [sg-lux-2] [zombie-brand-mindblown] 
Malix Farwin1 votes
- 1 shot with Q *** OK -does soo soo much dmg with E *** OK -does even more dmg with E if you proc it *** OK -sleep target for 2 sec *** OK -even if miss it stays on ground *** OK- -it has insanely low cooldown, as soon as sleep effect ends on 1 person, its available again *** OK -it has insanely huge range *** OK -she kills you even if you dont see her *** OK -insanely high burst *** OK -insanely low cd on all other ablities, if you use ultimate hat you have same cd on q and r *** OK -does soo much dmg with auto attacks *** OK -empowered auto attack after each ability *** OK -some random flying stuff does decent amount of dmg cuz of your W *** OK -get redemption *** OK -get every single active item, even predator boots *** OK -ult can be used for dodge and for engage ***OK -both casts on Q proc passive *** OK -way too much bonus movement speed like ult is not enough *** OK -can use summoner spells so flashing away does not even help you *** OK -E slows, do dmg, sleep effect, dmg applies 2 times *** OK -refunds cd on E if enemy is affected by sleep so you can rotate it and make enemy sleep for their entire life *** OK -can cast enything after she ults, even flash *** OK -so fkin anoying voice effects and i need to turn them off just because of it *** OK -17.1 mana regen @ lvl18, enough to spam your abilities *** OK -low mana cost for all abilities *** OK
So, there you go 25 reasons to nerf Zoe, she is banned in 90% of all games for a reason, dont you think you made a liiitle mistake Riot Games? :D I know that you know how broken she is but for some reason you dont want to nerf her yet, like wtf. I know you have in plan to nerf her a lot but please hurry up with it, idk what to ban, Brand, Zoe, Ornn... Since my team is banning ezreal and jhin and xin and all other random champions but it doesnt even matter, you know what you should do in next patch..
This is 2 months old and in that time she got nerfed twice. Her states are average compared to every other balanced champion and so is her WR, the top Zoe players also have average stats comparable to any other mid laner that isn't Katarina. All you are doing in this post is mentioning her kit and QQing about it, not actually saying why its OP but just saying it's op because it exists.
FØRSΛKΞN1 votesHello Riot maybe you want to nerf Zoe? Beacouse her damage is too good for her q and her cooldowns are pretty low. I played with Viktor against Zoe and at 6 lvl she just one shoted me with her q. She was 0/0/0 and she just one snipe with her q and i died. Thanks for your attention.
You just sucks thats all. Fact that you cant dodge attacks is not a reason for nerf. Its sad that they will nerf champs just because of you crying little kids which after getting killed in match went here and cry for nerfs instead of figuring out why did they die. You think other heroes cant os you ? Well big surprise they can.. you just have to play well. I will main her anyway even when shes going to be nerfed so it will be even more pleasure for me to beat these" oh i have died nerf him " type of players. People like you are shame of the lol serious players.
Spam Zoe before she's nerfed [sg-syndra]
XxLollyPopxX4 votesHonestly... Fuck You! <3
