Syndra Improvement

SosaGucci30O··1 votes·265 views

I have been wondering why Syndra's R hasn't been made a skillshot yet. It seems so logical that something that can easily 1 shot ADC's by pressing a single button would be changed, but yet it's been left alone for seasons on seasons. Allow it to pass through minions, increase the range that the balls fly, do something to retain strength to Syndra, as long as there is some counterplay apart from either using a summoner spell or an item like Zhonya's or GA.

Think about LCS. If Syndra is picked, the other ADC is forced to stay out of Syndra's range until either her ult is on cooldown, or Syndra herself is CC'd. The only way that ult is on cooldown is if it was used, and if it was used on the ADC, there is a good chance it did 80%+ of that ADC's HP mid-to-late game (if it didn't one shot him/her). Whereas, if Syndra's ult was made into a skillshot (take for example Taliyah's Q except that it can pass through minions), it would require far more skill to hit the target, increasing counterplay. It could be sidestepped or blocked by allies, flashed away from, etc.

This (IMO) would greatly improve the quality of life for squishier targets. Syndra isn't meant to be an assassin. Think about it, she has lots of CC (W stuns, E slows). She is a mage who is meant to do lots of damage in a similar fashion to Viktor, Orianna, or Anivia. She isn't supposed to be in the middle of the enemy team like an assassin is. If she can so easily kill from afar, there is no punishment to walking up for a second to press a button that nearly or completely one shots an enemy and falling back to safety.

In reference to the video linked, I will only be talking about the first two clips from the time linked. In the first clip, Sneaky gets almost one shot by Syndra's R through Lulu's ult and shield as well as Sneaky's own heal. In the second clip -** in LCS **- Froggen misses all of his skillshots (several q's plus his w and e) and still manages to press R and 100-0 Arrow on Ezreal. Granted these clips could be from a patch or more in the past and changes could have been made to counteract this, however in several games recently I still see this recurring dominance from Syndra.

I'm attempting to not BabyRage at Riot balancing by focusing solely on Syndra for the time being, and by offering constructive criticism as to how this could be resolved, without simply nerfing damage into oblivion.

I am open to hearing other opinions on this matter. If Riot thinks that Syndra's current ult is in its best form possible, I would like to hear why they believe that to be the case as I have marveled over the fact that Syndra's R hasn't been remade already.

2 Comments

Slythion1 votes

What compensation buffs would you give her? She's already sitting at a 47.37% win rate and want to make her singular most impactful ability to be unreliable. She may be dominating in your games, but she's hardly a reliable champion as is.

Also:

Granted these clips could be from a patch or more in the past and changes could have been made to counteract this

you are correct, both general masteries and (I believe) thunderlords have been nerfed since these clips. Overall damage has gone down. As for the Froggen clip, it's important to note that Froggen had a three level lead on the ADC as well as placed ignite on him. This wasn't a normal case of some everyday Syndra "one-shotting" the adc, we are talking about a burst mage with a 3-level advantage killing the ADC with a multiple-orb enhanced ult + ignite. Is it still kind ridiculous? Ya, but not as ridiculous as the first look makes it appear.

Xavanic1 votes

No, we need shit like syndras ult to shut down these glass cannon vaynes/twitches who will wreck half your team in 2 seconds, syndras ult is fine in its current state, if your having issues with getting one shotted there are roughly 6 options you can take, First is maw, it will cut from syndras overall burst and prevent her from one shotting, the next is edge of night, preventing her from even hitting the ability on you before she dies, the third option only applies to on-hit adcs, but wits end gives you enough mr to survive her ult the fourth is to build ga and avoid getting near her when its down the fifth is to build a health item like mallet or even cleaver/tri-force the sixth is to just straight up build a defensive item, like just because your adc doesnt mean you have to be 100% glass cannon every game Edit: Syndras ult only starts doing decent damage once she has items, so ending early is another option, also if they made it a skill shot, they would have to buff its damage to compensate Double Edit: Also, some adc's like mf/kog/ezreal or even lucian can get away with buying a zhonyas aswell

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