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This is exactly why, I'm about to leave Lol for good.

HyperTechno··4 votes·2,364 views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoqJ-oQ7Wls

To start off, I don't think Lol should shorten their game. I love playing a 30 minute League of Legends game. What I don't like is how hard it is to make a comeback now. Back in season 7, where I was improving, I could fuck a little bit around in Lol with a full damage Quinn top, in a ranked game without causing too much trouble for the team. Now, I can't do that. If I don't play like the pro players, I will lose the game. I hate the fact that I can't go full damage Zoe anymore to blow up a moron or two because I will be too squishy to do so. I have to build a banshee or an hourglass. The thing that hits me the most, the domino effect League now has. If one of my teammates lost to there opponent, everything is lost, I can't save the game. I don't like to hard stump, nor do I like to be the hard stomped. I want the best possible balance between the teams to win, no matter if they are winning or losing. League can be a slow game, but it can't come with the fast game style gameplay, like Battlerite. Make it so that if one teammate strategies well he can solo win the game.

Stop this ridiculous domino effect. It's League of Legends, not Battlerite. League should be a slow paced, but, an extremely fun experience for everyone. Make normal League feel like URF, but slow paced.

Bricky kinda feels the same. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7fXceg5F2I

Make the game fun and competitive.

14 Comments

ZaneShadow5 votes

I watch bricky a lot. "1 man can lose you the game, 1 man cannot win the game" is his main issue, and mixes of short laning phases, excessive jungle ganks, and general burnout he's experiencing with a couple of games right now. also night blu3 posted on his 1 youtube video a week scheduel and I still see him streaming league when I'm on twitch, so....

If your leaving league, I wish you a sweet fairwell. But please dont think that the success of Fortnite means league is dying. It just means streamers/youtubers looking after their carrears are going to a game that isn't as competitive at the moment for views (so long as ninjas not on) and has a large, easy to access viewership. It's a money thing far more than it is a gameplay thing. There may be a few legitimate issues like short laning phases that many high elo players point out, but thats a far cry (5, lol) from a game suddenly dying.

ModKnightsKemplar3 votes

Good, thoughtful response.

It's not the first time League has had some pretty big issues, and it won't be the last, I'd wager. I have a hard time with posts like this one (the OP, not yours), because I also have fallen off in my play quite a bit lately, and a lot of it is because of reasons that people bring up.

But acting like the game is dying because it's not your jam atm is silly to me. Riot is aware of the issues and they are working on addressing those; anyone paying close attention to PBE and their communication on Boards can see that. Until they stop working on the game with the earnest intent to improve it, it's not dead. The thing about constant change is that any patch can be up or down; that's inherently part of the system here. But I posit that the trend has been upward for most players, and I expect it will continue to be that way for awhile.

HyperTechno2 votes

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Good, thoughtful response.

It's not the first time League has had some pretty big issues, and it won't be the last, I'd wager. I have a hard time with posts like this one (the OP, not yours), because I also have fallen off in my play quite a bit lately, and a lot of it is because of reasons that people bring up.

But acting like the game is dying because it's not your jam atm is silly to me. Riot is aware of the issues and they are working on addressing those; anyone paying close attention to PBE and their communication on Boards can see that. Until they stop working on the game with the earnest intent to improve it, it's not dead. The thing about constant change is that any patch can be up or down; that's inherently part of the system here. But I posit that the trend has been upward for most players, and I expect it will continue to be that way for awhile.

I agree 100%. League is still my type of game, I do not believe, nor ever, do I think League is going to die out. My title was meant to be an overaction, but my main post was to give up the issues "I think" League has. Right now.

I have some ideas to fix this problem.

Make URF available as a permanent game mode, for those who love fast-paced games. With Blind, Draft, and Ranked.

(I will not be the person playing that game mode, I hate URF.) I really think this would be the way to go. There is a game mode for everyone. If they went that way. Casual League the game mode that lasts for 30 to 45 min and is strategy based game mode. Then Fast League that last for 15 to 30 min and is more of a chaotic game mode. Both game modes can be played for fun and for competitive.

League is at the stage where they are turning a slow game into to fast game. Casual League is meant to be, slow and strategic. While URF is supposed to be, fast and a cluster fuck of "Just keep going in".

I took two YouTubers with two different ideas. Bricky is the long game style player, while the other being the fast game style player. My intention was to say, "Hey Riot, make slow League, and fast League. It will solve a lot."

ModKnightsKemplar2 votes

Many, many people have suggested this before, and there's a very good reason Riot hasn't done it.

Balance in URF is a nightmare. You cannot have a seriously competitive ladder with a system like URF. It's intentionally unbalanced.

Even if you tone it back and have the hallmarks of the URF game mode, you're still dealing with balancing what will become basically two different games. That's simply not a good option, for several reasons, but the biggest is that champs need to be recognizable across modes for that to be effective. They wouldn't be able to balance most champs across multiple game modes effectively; that's why dominion is gone. I don't look at stats for TT, but there's a reason that it's basically a smaller scale Summoner's Rift.

Riot doesn't need the same people to stick around to keep this game afloat. People will get tired of it and cycle out, others will see it for the first time and cycle in.

The biggest thing about this conversation is that one person quitting isn't even a problem from Riot's perspective. Their entire business model, from the beginning, was that they didn't want to compromise on quality standards for the sake of mass appeal. If they ever started doing that, I think it would be a much bigger problem and the game would actually start dying. The ability of Riot to thoughtfully consider feedback, on a slow timescale, is actually their biggest strength. When they start making kneejerk reactions to perceived problems, then I'll know that there's a deeper issue. While they are still confident that they have the right direction and are making logical steps to improve the game, I'm not the least bit worried.

HyperTechno1 votes

{quoted}

Many, many people have suggested this before, and there's a very good reason Riot hasn't done it.

Balance in URF is a nightmare. You cannot have a seriously competitive ladder with a system like URF. It's intentionally unbalanced.

Even if you tone it back and have the hallmarks of the URF game mode, you're still dealing with balancing what will become basically two different games. That's simply not a good option, for several reasons, but the biggest is that champs need to be recognizable across modes for that to be effective. They wouldn't be able to balance most champs across multiple game modes effectively; that's why dominion is gone. I don't look at stats for TT, but there's a reason that it's basically a smaller scale Summoner's Rift.

Riot doesn't need the same people to stick around to keep this game afloat. People will get tired of it and cycle out, others will see it for the first time and cycle in.

The biggest thing about this conversation is that one person quitting isn't even a problem from Riot's perspective. Their entire business model, from the beginning, was that they didn't want to compromise on quality standards for the sake of mass appeal. If they ever started doing that, I think it would be a much bigger problem and the game would actually start dying. The ability of Riot to thoughtfully consider feedback, on a slow timescale, is actually their biggest strength. When they start making kneejerk reactions to perceived problems, then I'll know that there's a deeper issue. While they are still confident that they have the right direction and are making logical steps to improve the game, I'm not the least bit worried.

I see what you're getting at. The URF idea is good in short term, but won't work thanks to all the unnecessary problems they could face in the future.

I know, but it's not much about them when I wrote this post, as it is for the fun aspect of the game. If there is any LolTuber I agree with, it would be Bricky. He strictly goes into what made him unattached to the game. He doesn't think the game is dying, he doesn't think Riot is doing bad, he thinks Riot is improving but is forgetting the part that made Lol fun. Bricky and I are quite alike when it comes to what we think is fun. Riot is not required to change just because of me and Bricky, thinks the game is getting unattractive.

Sp33d Zer02 votes

Night blue is still playing league. He was on just the other day

HyperTechno1 votes

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Night blue is still playing league. He was on just the other day

Really! Then I need to go and check. That boosted monkey, telling us a lie.

I think he just needed a break. I could tell, after his last video with Camille. He wasn't sounding too good.

Or what's your theory? Did he do it for attention? Was it him being sick? Did he just take a break? Or is he really beginning to lose his passion for League? Let me know what you think.

Sp33d Zer01 votes

Is part for Attention and part that he wants to play other games more on stream and just play league casually

Evil Jester2 votes

K bye

Jamaree2 votes

Can I have your account?

HyperTechno1 votes

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Can I have your account?

I spend a little too much on this account, so I'm not going to give it away. I'm also not leaving League completely, there are still some fun aspects of the game I like.
My title is an overreaction. It's to get some attention for my post, so other people want to check what I had to say. A classic journalist trick.

I'm sorry.

DNFVixen2 votes

I quit league due to the snowball bullshit, season 6 onward has gotten worse every season, games are fucking way to quick, leathality was a fucking mistake, the new runes where a mistake, BE was a mistake. I miss the old balance team's philosophy. GC sucks.

ViciousSummoner1 votes

Would rather lose 2 20 min games than spend 40 mins to lose 1 game.

Would rather win 2 20 min games than spend 40 mins to win 1 game.

If you don't like that then just int 100% of your games so you can have the 40 minute game experience of being trapped with 3 morons.

Quiet Dude1 votes

I never watched imaqtpie, nightblue, or trick2g for their personalities. I watched them because they were good at league of legends and I liked to see them play. When they stop playing league, why would I stick around to watch them?

They aren't Game Grumps lol. They quit league, I don't watch them.

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