Suggestion for wards: Anti-ward zone after placing a ward for ~1 second.

FriendOrFaux·Aug 1, 2015·69 votes·2,271 views

So, one of the more mildly annoying things that happens in the game is when you go to place a ward in some brush, and your ally is thinking the exact thing, and you both place it down around the same time, burning both wards for no real gain. I'm sure just about everyone has seen or experienced this at least once in their life. I was thinking, wouldn't it be nice if once an ally places a ward somewhere, that for about a second or so, the area of sight given by that ward will not allow for another ward to be placed there for a second or so. This would prevent people from double dropping wards, and still (with the exception of edge cases) not interfere with champions like Lee Sin, who might need to use wards as a method of travel. Any thoughts on this?

24 Comments

DrCyanideAug 1, 201520 votes

While generally useful there's one strategy I fell victim to that would be thwarted by this...

My team was in the river, with a pink ward in the island bush. The enemy wards over the wall, we instantly clear it out. The enemy wards again, we clear it out. The enemy then unloads a barrage of wards. We figure they were just messing around, but we were happy to take the gold, and started clearing them out.

Then their Fiddlesticks ulted over the wall, right into the middle of our entirely unprepared team. They destroyed us, all because they could place down multiple wards in the same area.

Double watching could also be useful around Baron or Dragon, to see the situation longer before the vision is cleared out.

PaletongueAug 1, 20154 votes

maybe they can have the antiward zone disappear immediately after the first ward has taken damage?

Remlap1223Aug 1, 20153 votes

Doubling up on wards isn't a bad idea either. Clearing one ward with champion pressure is doable. Clearing two? That's a bit of an issue, especially with sweepers low duration.

Crowe StalkerAug 2, 20151 votes

A Base item 3341 can barely allow you to clear a singular ward with help. item 3364 will let you clear like two, and that's if no one else autos it and you aren't building attack speed.

All Day Tay TayAug 1, 20151 votes

i did a similar thing by myself in dragon pit. i kept dropping wards and their jungler would keep switching between dragon and my wards, and eventually my team was able to get there andsecure 2 kills and drag

AnruiAug 2, 20151 votes

This is why you, yourself ward over the wall as well. When setting up for objectives it is very important to be able to see the enemy approach. If you had proper warding over the wall/around the approach area then you could have seen Fiddle and gotten out before it was too late. I learned these things the hard way...

TotalJerkAug 2, 20154 votes

Pros often ward redundantly to make areas harder to clear. They might see this as a nuisance.

diamondlightAug 2, 20151 votes

I do this sometimes too in an important bush, cause with scanner they only have the time to clear one of them, unless they bring more people.

Aeolian MelodiesAug 1, 20152 votes

Double warding actually has its uses because unless the champion has an AA reset, because a champion alone cannot kill one ward with item 3341

Remlap1223Aug 1, 20151 votes

No champion in this game has an attack speed low enough to not be able to take out a ward with sweeper. Support Annie would be millions of times less effective than it is if that were the case (in case boards is feeling extra lazy/stupid today, Annie has the lowest attack speed in the game, scaling and base.)

Mecha MaIphiteAug 1, 20151 votes

Then we have Renekton who just presses W and instakills a ward. GG ez.

All Day Tay TayAug 1, 20152 votes

and shyv. and leona long ago

RottedApplesAug 2, 20151 votes

leona is still good at ward clearing since her her q doesn't work exactly like an aa, it's like it doesn't make the aa go on cd so she basically gets a free aa inbetween the first and the third.

All Day Tay TayAug 2, 20151 votes

long ago leonas q did a double hit.

FriendOrFauxAug 2, 20152 votes

In reply to people who have used strategies involving multiple ward placements: Maybe this could be a toggleable option?

Dr PoroAug 2, 20151 votes

Or just make it 0.5 seconds It will solve a lot of the double warding.

High5Aug 1, 20151 votes

Let's get people to actually ward or even buy trinkets 100% of the time before we start with the QoL issues. I agree this could be fixed, but this is very low on the list of things that needs to be systematically solved for right now.

Aeolian MelodiesAug 2, 20155 votes

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Let's get people to actually ward or even buy trinkets 100% of the time before we start with the QoL issues. I agree this could be fixed, but this is very low on the list of things that needs to be systematically solved for right now.

Buying the trinket does not seem to be an issue anymore.

Placing the freebie ward seems to be fucking complicated, however.

Ancestor007Aug 2, 20151 votes

Or using the Zhonya's( actually any active item)

AwoofAug 3, 20151 votes

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Buying the trinket does not seem to be an issue anymore.

Placing the freebie ward seems to be fucking complicated, however.

"Soraka ward!" while everyone else has the ward trinket, I'm constantly on 3/3 wards placed, and there are never more than 3 (plus a pink) wards on the map

Happens rather rarely, but still happens.

Remlap1223Aug 1, 20151 votes

It's less of a problem than it was. Now that trinkets are readily available and people (generally) know how to ward, it's a lot less common than it was back in Season 3. I can generally tell when my teammate's going to drop a ward just on positioning alone. Doing that alone has dropped the chances of this happening by about 50% for me, and TBH it wasn't that big of a deal to begin with.

Pus as DrCyanide said, ward baiting is fun. Nothing like having the enemy team getting free gold off wards while Malphite charges in with an Ori ball on him, followed up by a Wombo Combo from firecrotch.

Ticklish TasAug 2, 20151 votes

This is dumb as hell you could just communicate with your team

Dr PoroAug 2, 20154 votes

There is no ping to say that you're going to ward somewhere. Typing "I'm going to ward this brush over here" takes too long. Especially during a fight. If you're 5 man premade, you can communicate sometimes, but still not during fights. In soloQ, however, this is completely impossible.