Can you please fucking give Trynamere a new passive so he can stop luckily killing me level 1?

Gawdyr2G·8/16/2018, 8:39:20 PM·74 votes·15,604 views

Seriously, he might have the STRONGEST passive in the fucking game, 35% crit chance level fucking 1 should not be in the game. I don't give a fuck about his undying ult, but not being able to fight him is complete nonsense because "he got lucky with crits". That is not interactive, and it's complete and utter bullshit.

This champion is the definition of an RNG mess, he completely thrives off his RNG mechanic in laning phase. Like what in the honest fuck is this. I've legit won against him in lane because he didn't crit me but 1 time during the fight, and then other times, he crits me 7 times in a fucking row. Why is that in the game? Seriously, I cannot even fathom it.

64 Comments

Teridax688/16/2018, 11:57:54 PM19 votes

Tryndamere definitely needs a full VGU, but in the meantime he could benefit significantly from having the weird crit synergies removed from his kit. His E was recently touched a whole bunch of times, for example, including with changes to its cooldown, and I think it would've gone a lot better if Riot had just removed the on-crit CDR there. Additionally, replacing Tryndamere's passive with, say, bonus AS instead of crit chance could already make him a lot healthier and less cheesy, even if it wouldn't fix all of his problems.

Guzergus8/16/2018, 11:30:47 PM10 votes

As a trynd player, I agree completely. I don't enjoy not killing someone because I didn't have crits and I don't enjoy killing someone just by being lucky either.

Tegash8/16/2018, 9:27:49 PM9 votes

If he takes Q first he also gains AD for the amount of HP he loses. And don't get me started on Conq.

Acrilyk38/16/2018, 11:30:25 PM8 votes

Lol people complaining about Tryndamere in the 21st century

When Zed and Akali exist summoner 14

4eva8/17/2018, 12:31:22 AM6 votes

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Radiant Wukong8/17/2018, 1:49:45 AM4 votes

Technically the RNG factor is gone after 10 to 15 minutes when he has 100% crit. Same as Yasuo.

AnAggravatedPimp8/16/2018, 11:33:03 PM3 votes

"How long until I randomly win lane because of my bullshit?" -Tryndamere, 2036

An Enemy Sutando8/17/2018, 12:47:12 PM3 votes

Legit.

Some BS design that still hasn't been nerfed to the ground for some reason.

lolipopevelynn8/17/2018, 12:39:34 PM2 votes

Ur problem and everyone elses problem is fighting and going all in at lvl 1 period. Ppl need to just chill during lane phase.

TempName548468/17/2018, 1:14:39 AM2 votes

there aren't that many champions that he should be able to stack his passive against for free at level 1, so git gud n shit

Rouwhorst8/17/2018, 9:13:16 AM2 votes

Just rework crit already

DragonShea8/17/2018, 8:42:23 AM1 votes

And the highest HP at lv 1. That much damage and durability is too much.

Alzon8/17/2018, 1:40:22 PM1 votes

I remember one time a couple months ago where I was laning against Tryndamere as Jarvan, if I remember correctly. At level 1 I had gotten to lane first and auto’d a minion a couple times to stack Grasp. Tryndamere has also auto’d a couple times and was at about 20% rage. I walked up to hit him with a E + Grasp auto with cpot ticking, he auto’d me back as expected. What was not expected was for his auto to crit, making it an even trade. Then his next two autos were crits, and he spun under tower with Ignite and killed me. Bravo.

Super mobile champion with “death touch” who can’t die. At least he can be shut down before 2 items, but it’s completely RNG dependent. Mid-late there is nothing that can be done against a splitpushing Tryndamere. He escapes from goon squads and outduels a 1v1. In the best scenario all you can do is have someone waveclear under tower.

AP Tryndamere and AD Tryndamere both take a step away from RNG as the game progresses, either by not relying on crits or maxing crit chance. AP is definitely a bigger threat than AD because of the CDR on E plus not caring about pressing Q. Both have comparable damage, except AP has better waveclear and turret damage, but is more item reliant.

Thilmer8/17/2018, 2:04:27 PM1 votes

(Riot) We don't like RNG because is bad for a competitive environment.

(Also Riot) Let's build whole champions kits around random crit chance.

Crit chance like we know it should disappear, as simple as that. It's pure RNG, why in the world was that included in an e-sport when is frustating even in casual games?

Ulquiorra01238/17/2018, 2:36:32 PM1 votes

I kind of want to see crit work as a 100% bar. So say you have 70% crit chance, your first auto out of base is not a crit and moves the bar to 70/100, the next auto crits and brings the bar to 40/100, the following hit crits and brings the bar to 10/100, and the following hit does not crit and brings the bar to 80/100. This would at least bring some consistency to crits, and also stop things like 25% 8 crits in a row from happening.

Just an idea, no flamerino.

Lil Homie busta8/17/2018, 4:08:54 PM1 votes

We'll probably be buffing AD Trynd a bit in 8.17. We ended up hitting E CD because, when paired with CDR, his mobility wasn't sufficiently windowed.

Meddler, https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/gA16fKMZ-quick-gameplay-thoughts-august-17

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

Dingding1238/17/2018, 5:23:54 PM1 votes

Well maybe don't challenge him when his conqueror's up.

Actually come to think of it conqueror damage really needs a nerf and melee carries like Tryndamere make that abundantly clear. 20% true damage and 8 AD at level 2 is staggering. Whose idea was that?

VelvetCrotch8/17/2018, 6:32:50 PM1 votes

SO. MUCH.YES.

and this dude isn't even in the VGU list atm.... makes me - especially as a toplaner - very sad. cause its one of my most banned champions.

if you destroy him he splitpush lategame and can easily escape with his dumb E and low CD.

if he destroys you you will never 1 v 1 him the entire game - no one will cause he right-clicks you to death with his dumb crits.

disgusting and one of the worst designed champs in LoL.

The Ecdysiast8/18/2018, 5:59:00 AM1 votes

He also has the second-highest base health at level 1.

Netorare8/18/2018, 10:27:46 AM1 votes

Why r u fighting him at lv 1... u know what he does yet u still fight him......

Vlada Cut8/18/2018, 3:02:07 PM1 votes

If you are losing to 35% crit chance then sorry I can' take you seriously. Also, why on earth you trading him at lvl 1 on tze first place?