How do people still hate Zoe? She is overnerfed garbage.

Whitneyz Miltank·8/10/2018, 10:06:36 PM·3 votes·1,848 views

So obviously, Zoe was quite broken at release, and she has been nerfed every single patch ever since. The main problem with her is that she's the first champion with the playstyle of an 'artillery assassin', but more specifically, it's that she essentially operates with 2 spells. If any given champion can roll over you with the use of 2 basic abilities than obviously they are too strong, and that was the case with Zoe, so riot put a band-aid on this by just cataclysmically nerfing her every patch. By now she is at the state of being EXTREMELY unreliable with her hard to land skillshots, with low reward if you hit them because all her abilities do half as much as they did on release. You just landed your two spells on someone. great. you dealt like 40% of their max hp at best. now what? you just committed an all-in. great. now watch as how any other mages all-in actually has the potency to kill someone. Zoe has EXTREMELY exploitable counterplay, she is unreliable, she does not have an escape, and so on. She is extremely easy to deal with in lane with quite frankly anyone. I've never had trouble laning against Zoe at her overnerfed garbage state. (I play champions like Syndra Annie Lux Lissandra Leblanc etc.) I play Zoe myself and have mastery lvl 7 on her, but I gained it when she was actually worth picking, now I would NEVER consider picking her to a ranked game, because she's just too damn weak goddammit, but she's just sooo much fun to play ugh.... whatever, back to the point: I do not understand why people still hate Zoe and want her to get even more nerfs? How is laning against Zoe frustrating by any means? Who even is "countered" by Zoe? I can't think of anyone I ever struggled with against Zoe. And in before I get bronzie-blasted, I'm a diamond midlaner.

10 Comments

PopcornBunni8/10/2018, 10:09:47 PM4 votes

She's one of those kits that is impossible to balance and unfun both to play and to play against. Raw numbers won't make her less obnoxious; she needs more major tweaks to how her spells work for that.

DuskDaUmbreon8/10/2018, 10:14:58 PM2 votes

Because people see CT made her, and for some reason haven't grasped the fact that her R isn't a blink/dash yet.

Vanëssa8/10/2018, 10:41:20 PM2 votes

Silver people don't know how to dodge, play safe and basically try to do anything else then smash buttons hoping to get a kill, that's why they ask Riot to delete her and Riot actually listens to them.

Call Me Nana8/10/2018, 11:52:01 PM2 votes

Honestly laning against zoe isn't the issue, its laning against ignite.summoner 14

Tristanl0l8/10/2018, 11:53:14 PM1 votes

it's obnoxious I have to open the thread to downvote you

HaIlMonitor8/11/2018, 12:06:29 AM1 votes

You are part of the better days players. Her winrate goes from 47.9% globally to 51.6 In D+. That to me just says she might be harder to play then some of the other champs like Ahri, but honestly she is fine where she is. If they nerf her again she will actually be bad but you got used to her when she was busted AF, now YOU cant play her unless you put the time in to learn her over again.

Basically all I am saying is she is fine, you might have to put some work in to make her work again but thats on you not the champ.