I seriously feel bad for CertainlyT

viken··285 votes·13,379 views

I definitely don't know what it feels like, but it must be really demoralizing when literally the entire community of League of Legends goes in a blind rage every time they hear your name. Aside from the hate, he won't ever design a champion, rework a champion, or basically do his job the same again because people will just reject it no matter what. Whenever he goes to events, he'll just get booed and hated endlessly just like PAX last year. People complained about him not responding to feedback on the Mordekaiser thread but 70% of that thread is more hate, and the times where he DID reply, he got downvoted to shit along with people that actually liked the changes. Can we, as a community, quit witch-hunting the guy, ESPECIALLY since he's a Rioter that just wants to do his job?

EDIT-I'm not saying everything he's doing is right. I'm saying no matter what he's done wrong, Reds should be able to go on the forums without being heavily insulted, called out on their job, or receiving death threats.

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Vistha Kai131 votes

Personally I like his champions, but when I see his responses, they are excusively about him responding to "Whys" and not actually listening to feedback.

Compare what happened to Garen over the last 6 days to what was done about Mordekaiser.

As much as I'm aganist people calling for his job, he really had it coming.

stuartk1139 votes

People need to learn that you can reject his ideas without turning it into a witch-hunt.

Vistha Kai91 votes

That's not exlusive to CertainlyT, though. I'm a witness of this attitude nearly every game.

The thing is, he isn't really doing anything to prevent that with his "I know better, guys" philosophy.


RiotRepertoir on feedback about X: Hey, that may actually work/I'll look into it/It won't hurt the balance, so why not.

CertainlyT on feedback about X: "..." and when asked why: "Because I say so". At best he will explain you how his creation is suppose to work, but that's about it.

Hyrum Graff13 votes

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That's not exlusive to CertainlyT, though. I'm a witness of this attitude nearly every game.

That doesn't really change anything, IMO. "Other people are asshats so it's okay for me to be one too." Is not sound logic. They're still an asshat.

The thing is, he isn't really doing anything to prevent that with his "I know better, guys" philosophy.

Agreed, I wish he'd take a page out of Repertoir's book.

Meeks0111 votes

Though Repertoir got flamed a lot too so it really wouldn't make a difference.

Dextix LT8 votes

And now everyone is in love with him because he answered the hate and calmed everyone down by communicating.

BastionKross67 votes

Indeed. People didn't start hating on him for no reason. He made his bed, and now he's sleeping in it. If he wants to improve his image with the community, he's going to need to change some of the fundamental ways he approaches his job. Listening to players and making changes based on their feedback alone would go a long way toward repairing his damaged image.

He could also stop making champion that are unfun to play against without the live balance team gutting their numbers. But let's take things one step at a time.

Wolfeur8 votes

The difference here is that Garen received small tweaks but the main change (Villain mechanic) is still there, whereas Morde's change is rejected as a whole. CertainlyT can make some tweaks, but he doesn't receive any feedback other than "I wanna go solo Morde", which is out of the question for reasons he explained a lot of times.

Vistha Kai29 votes

His reasoning being "I can't make Morde healthy in a solo lane, therefore he won't be able to solo at all."

Small tweaks? Lmao, k.

Wolfeur4 votes

If he tries to make both viable, duo-lane won't be used and solo-lane will be unhealthy.

Vistha Kai16 votes

I don't know. Most ADCs can go top and do just fine. Most bruisers can go bot and do just fine(kill lane). Hell, mages can duo too and do just fine if not better than an ADC.

The thing is Mordekaiser lacks any traits that make other champions work in both solo and duo lanes.

Mainly:

  • gapcloser
  • CC
  • reliable long range damage
Wolfeur6 votes

No mobility (except a slight situational MS boost) and no CC (not even a slow).

If he doesn't have a support to kite and/or CC, he can't reach his opponent. And giving him more damage to compensate makes him too binary (feast/famine), either he doesn't touch his opponent or he kills them, which is not really healthy.

Vistha Kai5 votes

The thing is he will get kited himself even more than the other guy, because every ADC has some form of mobility or self-peel.

And what does the current set of changes suppose to fix? Tip: It does nothing, but forcing him bot into completely unfriendly environment where half of the time he won't even be able to farm.

Poske3 votes

If he is in top lane against melee champions he can reach em

No one thinks morde is unhealthy except certainly

Wolfeur6 votes

And every rioter in the balance team

Kuroi861 votes

Honestly, how could anyone justify giving Morde any of those things without absolutely destroying his other traits?

Mordes current counter play runs in three posibilities. A. Poke him out of lane from out of his range, don't get in his range. B. Burst him before he has a chance to build up his shield. C. Get your jungler to gank and hope the two of you can CC and burst him before he can fight back.

Vistha Kai3 votes

I'm not saying to give him a dash.

I'm saying that CT is trying to force him into a lane he is completely unfit for and will be even more "unhealthy" than is now.

Kuroi866 votes

And his options are?

The fact simply stands, Morde is unhealthy as a solo laner, until he gets a Sion level rework this is going to be the case.

In the mean time Riot wants him reworked and CT is left holding the shit end of the stick because everyone knows Morde falls into the doomed status with his fanbase gnashing their teeth and swearing up and down if anything happens to him other than a straight buff.

At least bot lane you're putting him in a situation where good team work can possibly help cover for Mordes short comings and allow him to be something other than an ungankable pushing machine.

I'm not saying I like it, but I can see why they are doing it and sadly, I can't see a way or reason to do otherwise.

Droogzy53 votes

While I don't approve of the way the community behaves towards him. The simple answer to why can be summed as looking at what Riot Repertoir is doing v.s. CertainlyT is doing.

While there has been some dissent about some of the changes to Garen, Repertoir has been addressing a good chunk of it, he's been proactive and he's asking question and maintaining a dialogue on the forums.

To sum it up, he's showing a genuine interest in what players want, which is something that this board hasn't seen in an extremely long time.

Look what has happened as a result: forum users are basically kissing the ground he walks on, threads are popping up asking him questions and praising him, he probably just attained one of the largest fan bases of a riot worker in the course of mere few days.

Why? Because he listening and posting, something which has been said time and time again that the forum really wants/need. The thing is, they weren't kidding, they just want someone to be proactive, and now look, the forums users are happy and feel like their opinion is being heard. All because of literally just one riot employee who started doing this not even a few days ago.

Meanwhile, CertainlyT? nothing.

I get that he doesn't respond because he just gets abused by the forum users, but he has no one else to blame but himself. He essentially sticks his fingers in his ear and screams lalala in the perception of most people on this forum when it comes to feedback.

And look at what has happened, he has several champions associated with him that are despised widely by the LoL community, all of which could have been avoided quite frankly if he had taken the time to listen to what players were saying. ESPECIALLY in the case of Kalista....dear lord.

You don't need to necessarily agree with the feedback, but being responsive is critical, having an open dialogue is critical.

CertainlyT has done neither of those two in a proper manner in a long time, to the best of my knowledge. He shuts down any dialogue, essentially with the I know better than you attitude.

Quite frankly, you know what company he reminds me of? Runescape. Look what happened that game, they told the players they knew better than they did. Forced a heavily unwanted change onto their players in the form of Evolution of Combat. Players voiced their opinions and told them this was not the right move, right up to the very day of release, and all through it, Jagex continue to say, we know better than you and we are going to do this anyways.

Subsequently, what happened next? Their player base drop to 1/5 of what it used to be. They had to break their biggest promise of not bringing micro-transaction into the game in order to keep the game afloat, and in general, while the game is still going, it's a ghost of its former self.

CertainlyT embodies a lot of that...and it is really worrisome, having seen it happened to one game I loved dearly, I don't want it to happen again...but CertainlyT's attitude is the exact same as that JAGex had.

And it frankly really fucking sucks cause despite all said and done, the guy does have some seriously good ideas for champion development,

Yasuo, the wandering samurai? Brilliant thematic and gameplay concept.

Kalista? Again, the notion of a relentless hunter pursuing their opponent and torturing until they finally execute their target? Fucking awesome concept, and on paper, her gameplay looks amazing and does a beautiful job of reflecting her theme. If it wasn't for the fact that her kit is just unfun, she honestly would go down as being one of the best thematically designed champions I've ever seen...unfortunately, her theme has driven her god awful passive.

He's an amazing champion designer, but he needs to realize they can't just be shoved onto the playerbase. Have a dialogue about champion development and you'll see the communication improve.

Voluug138 votes

And it frankly really fucking sucks cause despite all said and done, the guy does have some seriously good ideas for champion development,

Yasuo, the wandering samurai? Brilliant thematic and gameplay concept.

Kalista? Again, the notion of a relentless hunter pursuing their opponent and torturing until they finally execute their target? Fucking awesome concept, and on paper, her gameplay looks amazing and does a beautiful job of reflecting her theme. If it wasn't for the fact that her kit is just unfun, she honestly would go down as being one of the best thematically designed champions I've ever seen...unfortunately, her theme has driven her god awful passive.

He's an amazing champion designer, but he needs to realize they can't just be shoved onto the playerbase. Have a dialogue about champion development and you'll see the communication improve.

This. I can agree with this.

His champions have those awesome themes and designs, but when it comes to gameplay balance he turns the overload up to 11 and just lets it rip.

Result? His champions end up gutted and still overloaded.

Now with the Morde rework he cant make Morde work solo lane because of his vision of what ''viable'' is. For him Viable is having the overload of tools he gives his champions, the ability to deal with most situations it can happen. Which clashes with the powerful but simple inherent design of Morde, which relies lesson lots of mechanics and more in decision making, and understanding the flow of the game and outside factors like junglers, like most immobile champions.

Basically he is trying to cook a meal with car tools.

Solaxo24 votes

He brought it on himself. Not only his champions give Riot and players a headache, but he doesn't listen to anyone.

ESPECIALLY since he's a Rioter that just wants to do his job?

Then he should do his job WELL.

Voidgolem8 votes

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He brought it on himself. Not only his champions give Riot and players a headache, but he doesn't listen to anyone.

Then he should do his job WELL.

do note that having you agree with what he does is not necessarily a condition of having done his job well.

Guy makes creative designs that blow everything else out of the water: the problem is more that they're in a game where we have champions like Annie and Taric than the designs themselves being flawed - All the other champions just kinda suck or are shallow as hell.

SuperLuigiLXIV10 votes

The problem with CertainlyT's champion designs is that while they're fun to play, they're oppressive to play against, because they have extremely varied and complete kits with comparatively few weaknesses. Good champion design is about balancing strengths and weaknesses and making the champion fun for both sides of the game. I actually feel pretty good when I play mid against an Ekko. Can I outplay him? Or will he outplay me? I'm good with that. But Kalista? Well shit, better grab a point-and-click champion so I'm not hosed by her EXISTING. And let's hope we crush bot lane so we don't have to contest Dragon or Baron against her complete lack of damage ceiling.

And it's happened with every single champion he's had a hand in.

I'm not saying anything about the guy's passion for LoL or his skill in coming up with interesting mechanics for the game. I am saying any time I hear his name involved with a champion, I cringe, because it doesn't take a crystal ball to know it's going to be a champion designed not only to maximize strengths, but minimize weaknesses as well, and nevermind that the players are supposed to be the ones who figure out how to minimize weaknesses.

Hyrum Graff2 votes

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a champion designed not only to maximize strengths, but minimize weaknesses as well, and nevermind that the players are supposed to be the ones who figure out how to minimize weaknesses.

Except, y'know, how morde is staying immobile and having a hard time getting to enemy carries. Remember that, "If you want to get to enemies, bring a support" line that everyone's qqing about?

SuperLuigiLXIV3 votes

Yeah he didn't create Mordekaiser, he's just updating an existing kit.

Take a look at Darius, and Kalista, and Thresh, and ask yourself whether Mordekaiser would have had mobility issues or need help if CertainlyT worked him from the ground up.

lDontLiftIcarry19 votes

Because he doesn't know anything about game balance and it's painfully obvious? I don't give a fuck how "FUN" something is. If it's toxic to healthy gameplay. Then FUCK OFF until you can make it work where it has counterplay and is still fun.

Bard is fun, and has counterplay. Why doesn't he go talk to the dev who made bard. How About THAT?

He's had so many chances to improve and he refuses. He deserves all the hate he earned by refusing to improve and take a step back and go "hmmm maybe I can add some counterplay here with XXX"

Certainly T has made zero changes based on player feedback. And he never will. He's a stuck up prick way over his head. Why do stuck up pricks get the jobs that interact with people the most compared to others? No one will ever know.

As a whole it makes riot look bad too, which is probably the biggest problem. Don't put people with bad attitudes in your work place. Once the fact that their devs doesn't listen to the community gets around to every nation then their game is gonna drop faster than a fat kid on a skateboard.

Voidgolem11 votes

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Because he doesn't know anything about game balance and it's painfully obvious? I don't give a fuck how "FUN" something is. If it's toxic to healthy gameplay. Then FUCK OFF until you can make it work where it has counterplay and is still fun.

Bard is fun, and has counterplay. Why doesn't he go talk to the dev who made bard. How About THAT?

He's had so many chances to improve and he refuses. He deserves all the hate he earned by refusing to improve and take a step back and go "hmmm maybe I can add some counterplay here with XXX"

Yasuo, Kalista, and etc have counterplay.

It's just a lot easier to pretend they don't.

lDontLiftIcarry11 votes

In what way is a giants belt passive that resets into a giants belt passive when he ults counterplay? 650-800 extra HP to fight with every fight. And a passive that crits more often than tryndamere on full rage. Should've seen what I told dan dinh when he first played him on PBE I was like... "Dan just imagine if tryndamere was somehow more toxic."

Kal has infinite gap closers quite literally... Not even overexaggerating. And an E that can outsmite a 1,000 damage level 18 smite doing anywhere from 1.1k-2k damage because it has no cap AND has percentage damage Ontop of her R saving a champion from DoT's ticking on them while they decide when to go back in.

What counterplay does that have? None. Thats their kit alone thats broken. THeres no counterplay to any of that. Why? because its passive. Its tacked on bullshit that you'd have to significantly rework to ever change into a healthy state that doesn't make a player go "Oh this is just a better verison of X I should play that instead"

And instead of toning down the amount of times yasuo can get his passive per minutes or whatever I said at the time as a viable rework option to prevent infinite shielding basically... Nope released it. And to prevent kalisita from outdamaging smite and having any counterplay if she's allowed to get even slightly ahead in lanephase when it comes to dragon/baron control...? Nope. Didn't listen. Release the flood gates and let it sit on the servers for 1-6 months before meaningful changes happen.

That shit needs to stop. NOW. Not 5 minutes from now. NOW.

JustMyBassCannon9 votes

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Yasuo, Kalista, and etc have counterplay.

It's just a lot easier to pretend they don't.

Oh my god, I'm not the only one!

TwitchInMyPants8 votes

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Yasuo, Kalista, and etc have counterplay.

It's just a lot easier to pretend they don't.

Bard doesn't hard counter anyone, wheras Kalista makes a lot of melee characters useless against her and Yasuo makes a lot of ranged carries/mages useless against him. Maybe not after they've been nerfed as much, but just because of the design of their kits they've had to be nerfed over and over and over and they still hard counter champions. It's not like they're the only characters that serve as hard counters in League, but they have kits which were beating entire classes rather than simply a list of specific characters. That's pretty toxic design regardless of your opinion of how balanced they are.

EDWARD ELRlC18 votes

Honestly, I love CertainlyT. He is an innovator and innovation is needed to keep the game fresh. His imagination and ability to come up with unique twists to champions and/or game play makes me excited when I hear he is making or redoing a champ. Balancing the champion is what the pbe and pre-release is for.

SuperLuigiLXIV19 votes

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Honestly, I love CertainlyT. He is an innovator and innovation is needed to keep the game fresh. His imagination and ability to come up with unique twists to champions and/or game play makes me excited when I hear he is making or redoing a champ. Balancing the champion is what the pbe and pre-release is for.

I think his ideas for new mechanics and skills are necessary for LoL to continue to grow. I don't think he needs to be allowed to put entire champion kits together though. His skill as an innovator may be great, but his skill as a champion designer is severely lacking.

Tigero6 votes

Innovation means applying something new, fresh; something that brings a gust of warm spring breeze into the game giving you that awesome feeling. Would you call an infinite jumping monkey, that causes frustration to every meele character, with endlessly stacking execute'n slow that allows her to "outsmite" a lvl 18 jungler and an ult that allows you to just deny any kind of play on her binded target with a single click, an innovation? No, it's just a character with an overloaded kit, nothing more.

viken5 votes

I don't agree with all of his champions, but they DO have some cool stuff. Zyra's seed mechanic, Yasuo's shield, pretty much everything about Thresh, they're all some genius stuff.

UltraSceptile5 votes

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I don't agree with all of his champions, but they DO have some cool stuff. Zyra's seed mechanic, Yasuo's shield, pretty much everything about Thresh, they're all some genius stuff.

Yes, and kalista's nidalee jump every auto attack allowing her to build full attack speed and then on top of that an additional nidalee jump for her low cooldown spear and then her slow.......

Cool stuff that is utterly fucking cancerous to play against is not a good design. In fact, if all these people are complaining about his champs maybe he should be fired.

To some of these people saying CertainlyT's champs are not anti fun for the game is like me going to Jerusalem and saying Hitler wasn't a bad person and he didn't deserve the hate he got, when what he did was fucking atrocious and should burn in hell.

ArkenStorm16 votes

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To some of these people saying CertainlyT's champs are not anti fun for the game is like me going to Jerusalem and saying Hitler wasn't a bad person and he didn't deserve the hate he got, when what he did was fucking atrocious and should burn in hell.

Are you serious? Did you just say that? Honestly? I don't like the choices CertainlyT has made with the rework, but WTF are you even thinking, posting something like that? THIS IS A GAME. IT IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD NOR ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE REWORK ANYWHERE EVEN IN THE SAME UNIVERSE AS HITLER.

Xela Syab17 votes

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I definitely don't know what it feels like, but it must be really demoralizing when literally the entire community of League of Legends goes in a blind rage every time they hear your name. Aside from the hate, he won't ever design a champion, rework a champion, or basically do his job the same again because people will just reject it no matter what. Whenever he goes to events, he'll just get booed and hated endlessly just like PAX last year. People complained about him not responding to feedback on the Mordekaiser thread but 70% of that thread is more hate, and the times where he DID reply, he got downvoted to shit along with people that actually liked the changes. Can we, as a community, quit witch-hunting the guy, ESPECIALLY since he's a Rioter that just wants to do his job?

As a restaurant manager I have to listen to customer feedback and try to fix mistakes when they happen or try to help the customer in any questions or issues regarding their order. He's not doing that. In a social media intensive job like game programming where people know what you do, silence is the worst thing. Sure the community is kinda bad, but we'd at least like a response to satiate what we feel is wrong in the game and game design as a community.

JustMyBassCannon11 votes

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Sure the community is kinda bad, but we'd at least like a response to satiate what we feel is wrong in the game and game design as a community.

Kinda bad?

Ser, I surf these forums on a near-daily basis. I read a lot of threads, mostly on G&B. The community here isn't just bad, it's like diving into an alcohol bath after walking through a rose bush. You can find a handful of threads that are neutral or positive, and then the vast majority of feedback is just people treating the feedback forum as a place to vent their hate.

Or to post clickbait and memes for the sake of getting upvotes.

Or pretend to have a discussion, and then hate anyone who isn't in absolute agreement.

Hyrum Graff6 votes

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Or pretend to have a discussion, and then hate anyone who isn't in absolute agreement.

#NotAllSummoners

The Queen Viper16 votes

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I definitely don't know what it feels like, but it must be really demoralizing when literally the entire community of League of Legends goes in a blind rage every time they hear your name.

Well, it should be a sign that you fuked up as a designer but nope, some people just have too much arrogance to back off and start doing something else.

viken13 votes

That would be true if anything that happened was his fault. It's been said a lot around here, but champion designers don't come up with any numbers; Live Balance or some other team does that. It's not his fault that Zyra was ridiculous on release and is now in the shitter, it's not his fault that Yasuo used to be able to proc his massive shield 3-4 times every fight. Yes, he's the one that came up with the abomination that was Kalista, but to be fair, the fact that she went through means all the teams involved in champion release looked at that and thought it was okay.

Nameless Voice6 votes

However, it is his fault that he invented Kalista and Yasuo (and, to a lesser extent Thresh), whose kits are overloaded at best, outright toxic at worst, and generally completely impossible to balance regardless. Yes, it's also the rest of the champion design team at fault for allowing those champions to make it to live despite their glaring design flaws and outright disregard for Riot's own design values, but it's hard to trust a guy who has put his name to some of the most hated champions in the game.

You can't blame him for champions that weren't balanced on release (e.g. Zyra), but I think it's fair to blame him for designing champions that cannot be properly balanced due to their kits.

That's not to say it's okay to personally attack the guy, but it's certainly understandable that many people distrust him because of his past track record, and fair that people would rather he not make any more champions based on how much his previous ones have sapped the fun out of so many matches.

Knight SoIaire 14 votes

i did feel bad for him once but then i understood that he does his stuff his way only

whatever might do bad ... whatever we dont like ... it will all go the way he wants

if he would just get on the forums and start the initiative from his side ... hate would die fast .... people would toss it away for the chance to help and compete into the game they love

The thing is that he failed ... he scored points for being innovative but it backfired instead of learning on his mistakes and working on fixing them ... he just goes further with it

People who play the game and who speak on the forums get shit from him ... so they repay in kind anyway he holds the hand on the trigger ... and he has the full control over what is between us and him ... even if his designs backfire he still can easily make a good relationship with the player base

Bisaknosp13 votes

well he is making the game less fun tbh champions like Kalista Yasuo these ones give me ebolaids

JustMyBassCannon12 votes

Zed wasn't designed by CertainlyT

Bisaknosp7 votes

whoops sry changed it but he participated

JustMyBassCannon6 votes

He was not designing Zed. He had some involvement with Zed, in the same way that someone painting a new car technically was involved with its assembly.

Ergono7 votes

Yes the issue I believe is that he in comparison to the other designers shows no thread of humility. There is a a noticeable sense of ego and arrogance that subtly comes out from his posts and ideas, specifically with the Morde rework.

@Meddler who isn't the primary guy on this rework seemed to bring about more clarity and openness about Morde's initial rework before any changes were released and that's an issue. He needs to take the Dominoes approach.. admit your failures. That is why Dominoes is #1 in customer loyalty. They admitted their pizza sauce tasted like ketchup they went public they put it out for us to see and we forgave them. More importantly they listened and got better.

People make mistakes and people forgive mistakes. When you won't acknowledge those mistakes for better or worse, people stop treating you as a person. Now you're just someone who is seen as preventing progress for the better good of the people.

Saianna7 votes

I definitely don't know what it feels like, but it must be really demoralizing when literally the entire community of League of Legends goes in a **blind rage every time they hear your name. **

EDIT: Doesn't work with players, they just have to accept his decisions. Creates super-unfun champions to play against.

Aside from the hate, he won't ever design a champion, rework a champion, or basically do his job the same again because people will just reject it no matter what.

he's doing jut fine. He doesn't accept any feedback that doesn't show his creation in bad spotlight.

Whenever he goes to events, he'll just get booed and hated endlessly just like PAX last year.

EDIT: Doesn't work with players, they just have to accept his decisions. Creates super-unfun champions to play against.

People complained about him not responding to feedback on the Mordekaiser thread but 70% of that thread is more hate, and the times where he DID reply, he got downvoted to shit along with people that actually liked the changes.

That thing.. I think is silly, downvoting/hate on CT in Morde threads? I'm against that behaviour, but he's adult from what I heard and he shouldn't behave like princess. So what if there is some verbal harassment, he should deal with it.

And next thing: The only part of Morde rework that players like is his dragon. Rest of his kit is unnaceptable.

Can we, as a community, quit witch-hunting the guy,

As long as he stops making unhealthy champions that require 10 patches to nerfs? Also some kind of work with players instead against them with reworks?

ESPECIALLY since he's a Rioter that just wants to do his job?

So far he has made very cool champions to play, yet most toxic to play against if that's his job, then he really need supervisor to observe his work & intervene when he once again creates champion with 30 passives.

And from the looks of it CertainlyT has no skills when comes to reworking champions. He ignores their lore, expectations of players. He shouldn't be allowed to rework champions.

EDIT-I'm not saying everything he's doing is right. I'm saying no matter what he's done wrong, Reds should be able to go on the forums without being heavily insulted,

Look at RioterRepertoir. This man is pure gold. There is none negative posts about him. Because he does his job good, very, very good.

Also don't group all Rioters in the same bag. There's heaven&earth difference between any good Rioter & CertainlyT.

called out on their job, or receiving death threats.

That I concur. I've never threaten anyone as it's stupid, immature and puts doubt on ones sanity.

[If someone downvotes me for no reason, then please know that I worked hard to write this, so at leave your opinion why you disagree, if not then please accept my middle finger & farewell]

viken12 votes

First off, CertainlyT had ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Cassio rework. Stashu was in charge of that, and he was very active about it until it turned into blind hate just like the Morde rework. The difference is, the Morde rework was blind hate as soon as CertainlyT was mentioned in it. And the rest of your post is a perfect example of victim shaming. "He gets unacceptable treatment, but it's okay because he's CertainlyT". No, it's not okay, and there needs to be something done about the monsters that are trampling around these forums.

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