So I play lots of mid lane mages and I've noticed that some of the newer champs (Vel'Koz and Azir are who I'm thinking of primarily) have much smoother and easier to cs with AA while champs like Casseiopia and Anivia have horrific AA. Are there any plans to update these or are the AA considered a part of the champ's balance?
Only Play Darius6 votes
and 
just so happen to have "laser" type autoattacks as opposed to the projectile based autoattacks of all other ranged champions. They aren't blocked by windwall and have no travel time which makes it much easier to time last hits.
I believe AA's are a part of balance. 
have low-cooldown abilities that they usually use to last hit instead. They want 
to have a hard time cs-ing levels 1-5 as a way to give opponents a window of opportunity to zone her before she hits 6 and inevitably takes control of the lane. 
's AA animation was much shorter on release, they increased it drastically so you actually have a chance to hit her before she starts hopping. Old 
had an atrocious AA frame and they intentionally left it clunky for fear that any change could break her.
And then we have possibly the worst AA animation in the game 
Diananmen Square1 votesI find 
's autos completely awful for some reason.
Only Play Darius2 votesThey are. Because Malz only uses them to soften the minions up then the infection does all the last hitting for him.
Evewynn4 votesExcept early game his e is the most unreliable last hitting skill ever. You have to last hit with your awful autos WITH the e in order to be at all effective
YumaS2Astral1 votes[{quoted}](name=Celestial Bodied,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iE6fVEQK,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-17T07:48:29.683+0000)
Except early game his e is the most unreliable last hitting skill ever. You have to last hit with your awful autos WITH the e in order to be at all effective
To be honest, once you get used to playing Malzahar, his autos are not that bad for last hitting.
A champion that I've found to be a lot worse at last hitting than Malzahar, however, is 
. His autos are incredibly clunky and slow, I miss so many last hits with this champion that it is not even funny. To make the matters worse, he doesn't even have any waveclear or reliable last hitting ability.
also has clunky autos, but at least his Q allows him to last hit reliably, and he has waveclear.
Stiv12342 votesIts hilarious how different these things can be. Personally I find Swains AA to be more on the pleasant side. Those who give me trouble are 
(I like playing her midlane) 
.
CarbRundum1 votesmid lane Elise is the hardest shit to farm with. Spider form does make it a lot better, though
Voluug131 votesKarma's AAs oh god. The flashbacks.
She also has low AD on purpose so she doesnt AA abuse the 1-2 champions she outranges in midlane lol
Vesarixx2 votes
has a pretty bad auto animation, same with 
EfficientDynamo1 votesDon't forget 
. His slow windup before dropping his anchor tilts me every time.
barbarianskull5 votesSoraka
MasterSomething1 votesThey updated Karthus AA awhile back. It was a start.
Jbels6 votesThey updated Karthus AA awhile back. It was a start.
lol I remember his old AA, it was such a huge particle that you always expected it to do a fuck ton of damage, but it never did
Spoofghoul6 votesOh but it did deal massive damage
ImmortalBloodCY1 votesDamn dont revive that build!.
ChaddyFantome1 votesI read somewhere that some champs have awkward/varying Auto's an an intentional part of the champs design and balance. Some of the old champ spotlights even would talk about how easy it was to CS with the champ because of their auto animation.
SaltySunbear2 votesAhh, this is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
Kuroi861 votesOne thing I'd like is to see Riot smooth out champion auto attacks for attack speed. If you build some AS on a champ, you shouldn't have to deal with a clunky AA that looks like it's canceling mid animation because the next AA hit before the animation finished.
Llanite1 votesI would not call Cass an "old" champ, she received her new model last year.
Some champ has slow AA animation, you just have to get used to it. Not necessarily part of "balance", they just made them more fancy than they should be, but then people got used to it and changing it makes them unhappy.
OverpoweredSoap1 votesI would not call Cass an "old" champ, she received her new model last year.
Some champ has slow AA animation, you just have to get used to it. Not necessarily part of "balance", they just made them more fancy than they should be, but then people got used to it and changing it makes them unhappy.
I believe they didn't touch any of her animations when they worked on her model.
So she's technically an old champion, especially compared to most.
Llanite1 votesA model does not move on it own. Someone has to work it.
If it looks the same as with the old model, it's because they made it so.
FlyingInca1 votesI'll take pretty much any league champ's auto over a Dota champ's auto. You have't seen hell until you've seen Clinkz's old AA.
WoonStruck2 votesI'll take pretty much any league champ's auto over a Dota champ's auto. You have't seen hell until you've seen Clinkz's old AA.
Then you have extremely smooth ones like Windrunner that were so smooth they got nerfed.
HeadHonchkrow1 votesClinkz had an OLD AA?
Stiv12341 votesLina and CM are really disgusting, too. To make it even worse, in DotA it feels like you have half as much AD as in League.
Spoofghoul2 votes{quoted} in DotA it feels like you have half as much AD as in League.
thats a good thing we need less ad
Lady Hammerlock1 votesI find that the most painful AA animation is a low attack speed vayne the projectile isn't terrible its the winding up animation thats terrible when you have low attack speed
Slamurai Jack1 votesA champions auto animation is a part of their balance, yes. You know why Vlad has such a shitty auto animation? So he sometimes has to use Q and E to last hit and give his opponents openings to attack him. You know why Vel'koz has such a snappy auto animation? Because his waveclear spell is absolute garbage at securing CS until lvl 7.
Are1 votesI agree. Buff Amumu's AA, his start up is unbelieveable
SpookyNeedle1 votesI like Cassio's AA animation, Anivia's is bad though
Captain Aishi1 votesanivia has already had her AA responsiveness improved by a lot, you wouldn't want season 1-3 anivia autoattacks (though i personally miss them for how strong they were at harassing early)
