Sivir's nerfs in comparison to Ashe and Jhin is huge.

Shot Càller·8/24/2016, 1:39:48 PM·77 votes·5,449 views

Ashes nerfs in comparison to Sivir and even Jhin was a joke. She was arguably the strongest out of the 3 and yet got nerfed the least.

Comparing her Ult nerf of 50 dmg to Sivirs where his attack speed at max rank got reduced to 60% (20% reduction) which used to be his 2nd rank is a huge hit to his late game is actually astonishing how much Riot hates Sivir.

Ashes q nerf of 1 second is not as bad as it sounds as lane trades/fights are usually over by the 4 second mark meaning she her dps in most fights will not have changed, sure in teamfights her q downtime will hurt but no where near as to Sivir's.

Jhins nerfs is another joke, directed at completely the wrong places. I don't know what Riots balance team is on tbh.

To top it all of Sivir has another set of nerfs coming on the pbe, and with an 8 second cdr increase max rank on her spellshield with no other nerfs to Ashe.

89 Comments

Nahui8/24/2016, 1:46:33 PM38 votes

They're smashing her before worlds on purpose so she can't steal the show. She was the star last year at worlds and is on track to be the star this time. They want other major ADCs so they are putting her down now. She will be rebuffed after the worlds patch goes through.

Astôlfo8/24/2016, 3:46:15 PM30 votes

Can't have their baby with their newest legendary skin feeling too bad, can they?

dunkeroni8/24/2016, 5:23:24 PM20 votes

[{quoted}](name=Shot Càller,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iB8yqRBR,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-08-24T13:39:48.401+0000) ...to Sivirs where his attack speed at...

When did Sivir get a sex change? Is Riot trying to reach out to transgender moba gamers?

it be lìke that8/24/2016, 11:47:15 PM8 votes

you called sivir a guy like 3 times.

Eedat8/24/2016, 2:09:00 PM6 votes

Most of these changes are directly aimed at the pro scene for Worlds. Yes, they suck for us normal players but this patch is implementing all the major changes for the final 6.18 patch that worlds will be played on. Don't expect any major changes next patch.

Chatillon8/25/2016, 5:58:33 AM4 votes

I just cant get past you calling Sivir "he"

Arkatra8/24/2016, 7:10:34 PM4 votes

Jhin nerfs directed the Armor penetration rune + Armor penetration itemization, where you could blow up (or burn 1-2 of summon) the enemy ADC by landing your W and use your ult. Just by only after completing yomuu. (If enemy support wasn't around). Still not the right way to nerf him, or not him but do something with the items.

He wasn't problem for so long till Lucian (direct nerf via kit) and Ezreal (Frozen mallet/Trinity - undirected nerfs) got tuned down. Obviously then he took their place, and he just abused the armor penetration as lucian did. Do something with your items instead of tuning down every marksman which fulling their predecessors place. (Like at season start happened with Corki, then Kalista, Lucian and Ezreal.)

I like the sivir nerfs, finally i won't see her at all in this season. (#sarcasm) She got already the victorious skin last season, tune her down. (#STRONGERsarcasm) (To the kalista level) The new nerf on PBE - if making out to live - will murder her to the point she'll need a recovery. HAHA.

Jimmyyy8/24/2016, 7:25:28 PM3 votes

You know Sivir has tits right? You referred to her as him and said his like 10 times and ugh Respect the boobs bro

Leonerdo8/24/2016, 8:12:38 PM3 votes

Take it from someone who actually plays Ashe and Jhin, that these nerfs are well placed. Outside of lane all Jhin does is start and end teamfights with his W and Ult. Occasionally he might actually AA to clean up a fight. The Ashe Q nerf is specifically to hurt her late-game dps, not her lane power. The ult nerf already hurts her plenty in lane, since 50 damage is a lot early game.

And I don't play Sivir but meh, fuck her. All she does is farm and shove lane for 20 minutes and then wreck teamfight's with her team-wide utility and massive AoE damage from pressing two buttons. I wouldn't mind if she was absent from Worlds.

THE RlVER KlNG8/24/2016, 4:32:41 PM3 votes

That's because she isn't nearly as flashy. Same reason why Gragas got a love tap in comparison to Rek'Sai.

redfeenix8/24/2016, 1:43:33 PM3 votes

I didn't even know sivir was OP. Damn nerfed before I could get some freelo outa her

NightmareAmazoX8/25/2016, 1:53:02 AM2 votes

They removed Curtain Call's 10% CDR for every shot Jhin did not use. Sivir Ult got nerfed too. R.I.P Hope to see you after worlds sivir. Now compare those 2 nerfs to freaking ashe. 1 second less on her Q. Small dmg nerf on her ult which wasn't ever used for the damage anyway.

VivaLaKitten8/24/2016, 7:40:22 PM1 votes

I can see Jhin's damage scaling going down a bit, . . . but what is with his Ult changes? . . . why would they remove the cd for bullets not used?