So here is my idea: Trundle's pillar should deal 1 true damage to allies as well. He is a troll, after all. This would be a funny addition that wouldn't ever actually make a difference, as it is only 1 damage on a decent cool down.
Posui Gart38 votesAnd make him able to score assists on ally kills.
Laughing Fish6 votesAnd on Ally deaths? Or would that be going too far?
Posui Gart5 votesOnly visual change, if Trundle "assisted" in killing his ally with that 1 dmg, he gets an assist(no gold or exp, just a number of assists changing and maybe adding Mejai/Occult stack)
Laughing Fish6 votesYeah, giving him gold on his allies death might be taking things too far.
IcyPepper8 votesI think giving 1 gold, which doesn't provide any real advantage, would be amusing if you "accidentally" kill an ally.
DragoonRuin7 votes[{quoted}](name=Posui Gart,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=i2sEdaj3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-08-25T18:18:32.777+0000)
And make him able to score assists on ally kills.
Amazing idea!!!
Crett18 votes
: OK team baron's up you know the drill
: CHARGE!!
: casts pillar on team
Baron kills them all
: 
FOUR STACKS!!!
Haunty3 votesI wish you knew how hard this made me laugh. Thank you. Thank you so fucking much.
Wizardavar4 votesActually 8, baron kills are attributed to the player that damage the the dead champion last. BUT YAY !!!!!!!!!!
50000000000000009 votesWe need more troll champions. Like actually troll, not like trolly champions.
Laughing Fish6 votesWe need more Darkin first.
Downfall2 votesCan we get more 
whatever the hell this guy is?
Laughing Fish1 votesZuanite Abominations? We already have several of those (but more couldn't hurt).
Crowe Stalker2 votesWe don't have a Vigilnaut Champion yet (the thing Ekko fought in his Seconds teaser) so that could work as a Zaunite Abomination. I'd really like a Female that's allied with Zaun and loyal to it though, since the only 'Zaunite' Females are 
who's a Dirty Traitor, and 
who's too busy blowing up Piltover.
Laughing Fish1 votes
is also Zaunite, but is loyal to Piltover. There are not a lot of people, male or female, that actually are loyal to the city of Zaun. It is a terrible place lol.
Crowe Stalker1 votesPretty much all of Zaun's Roster is loyal to Zaun, but Zaun isn't the kind of City-State that everyone's yelling "ZAUN IS THE BEST!" or "GLORY TO ZAUN, NOW AND FOREVER!" It's a very Liberal nation where anything's allowed as long as you don't blow your neighbors to high hell and back (or if you do, compensate/silence them accordingly) and Zaun's not THAT Terrible. I mean, they have 
and 
so there is SOME good in there. It's just overshadowed by the Industrial Powerhouses like 
and 
who are known much more globally (and negatively impact their city-state's reputation as a result)
It's sort of like any real country imo: You know about the Bad people more than the Good ones because the Bad ones show up more in the news or otherwise affect others in a more visible sense. We Criticize more than we Compliment.
Laughing Fish1 votes and , while loyal to the people living in Zaun, are both criminals. They do not serve the Zaunite government, and in fact openly oppose it. And was exiled from Zaun, and now serves the Noxus. Although looking at all the champions from Zaun, there are still plenty that are loyal,such as , 
, 
, 
, 
, and .
BoxOfDOG6 votesAw c'mon man.. "Praise Teemo"? That's just unfair.
I can't press that option if you put that in..
7ha7guy7774 votesThat would be a Garen/anyone with new Warmog's nerf
Laughing Fish2 votesPerhaps make their passive immune to his damage? Or just leave it as is and laugh away? Trundle can already cancel channels/recalls with Pillar of Ice. The 1 damage wouldn't make a big differance, and he still would not be as devastating as Bard/Anivia
Phat God Lucian5 votes[{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=i2sEdaj3,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-08-25T18:26:07.070+0000)
Perhaps make their passive immune to his damage? Or just leave it as is and laugh away? Trundle can already cancel channels/recalls with Pillar of Ice. The 1 damage wouldn't make a big differance, and he still would not be as devastating as Bard/Anivia
Those times when you die because he cancels your recall...
Crowe Stalker1 votesThose times when you die because Pillar of Ice obstructs your pathing like an Anivia Wall does (though not as wide)
Jungle Lux God2 votesWarmog's got nerfed?
It essentially had its cost increased by 250 gold for an effect that is worth well more than 250 gold.
The reality is that it had its cost increased by 250 gold, had the in-combat portion of its passive moved to being base stats, had its passive quintupled (due to giving health per second instead of increasing health regeneration (which applied every five seconds)) and getting a condition on the passive (which doesn't matter because you don't rush Warmog's Armor anyways, and you usually get some kind of health item first), all of which provide a net buff for the item.
7ha7guy7774 votesThe 1 true damage would cancel the hp regen based on not taking damage. It would screw over any ally who he hits with it that has a hp regen mechanic like warmog's or garen's passive
Jungle Lux God2 votesI'm sorry.
With the way you worded your post, I thought you were saying that Warmog's got nerfed, and not that Garen's passive and Warmog's armor would both be nerfed.
Of course I understood that they both would be nerfed, I just misunderstood how you said it.
LordGeovanni2 votesyou dont rush warmogs.
: times like these are unbearable
SecretAgentHulk1 votesAnd 
, and probably 
's W (not that anyone cares about that one...).
Laughing Fish1 votes's Strut as well
redniwediS4 votesAn interesting idea. Sure it could be used to troll Warmog's or Banshee's Veil users, but it could also grant your team an assist. It could definitely lessen the blow of a failed gank.
Laughing Fish5 votesIt already deals 1 true damage to enemies, primarily so that is procs turret agro.
redniwediS1 votesThat it does, but it does not currently let Trundle get an assist when an ally dies!
Laughing Fish1 votesThat would be funny, but might be taking things too far. It would make it more likely Trundle would sacrifice a team member to gain his own gold. I think just have a VO when trundles damage helped kill an ally.
redniwediS2 votesEh, it's no different than Bard, Tahm, Anivia, or current Trundle sacrificing an ally for the lols.
Balance should be around those who play right, not those who troll. I think it could do just fine.
LordGeovanni1 votesi think that the current 1 true damage is over kill on the trundle user give it 25 true damage
7ha7guy7771 votes
Crowe Stalker1 votesI don't get why anyone would ever buy that potion... it's a waste of gold imo, even 
gives you a better passive >.>
LordGeovanni1 votesunless you are high ap mage and the enemy just dead enough for you to attack towers. some day i will try devourer dianna and build this to clear towers in i aproximate 7 seconds or less from full hp to dead. any way i said true damage so it doesnt scale with ap though
7ha7guy7771 votesIt adds 25 true damage to abilities. That includes trundle's pillar
LordGeovanni1 votesi wish that that elixer would be worth while on trundle also why we give mages true damage again with the ap and tanks out on the side with nothing if anythign they should ahve these small values of true damage
500 Minions3 votesYea, good idea. and give him 1 gold if he assist/kill a teamate. No exp or other stacks. Good Easter egg.
Deep Terror Nami2 votesIf you were anyone else you'd be -20 votes because they think you're serious XD
Laughing Fish2 votesI actually think it would be funny to add it.... https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdd2n6LIx41rym33p.gif
Astrophysicality2 votesBut won't it direct tower aggro onto trundle?
LordGeovanni3 votesNo. tower is confused..... tower hurt it self in confusion......
LordGeovanni1 votesive survived an ignite by 2hp before (basically 1 hp and hpregen) if a trundle had used a pillar to help serperate me in the situation rather than flash that ignite could probaly kill a person and be the fault of the pillar but real specific situation are really specific
500 Minions3 votesThen why Leona's passive deals 1 less damage to champions wearing sunglasses? 1 damage is more an Easter egg.
feral rrooaarrrr1 votesIf, but some miracle he actually gets the kill, then what? Also go ahead and start with first blood, ill be mundo and w myself to 1 health for you to kill
Laughing Fish3 votesI think there should be a global troll laugh, followed by the announcer saying "Betrayal!" like on Halo.
windwolf7771 votesI like the way you think. Even more trolling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHsb2Mud7xU >:D
