Concerning the new ryze update/rework

vanïlla coke··1 votes·1,747 views

Hi, regarding the new ryze changes I have talked to many many people about the ryze changes and they seem to be well to put it straight up its fucking stupid. I have many concerns about this rework (the one that came out this patch) so ill put them in order.

  1. This is never what ryze was intended to be, Ryze is so dominant in competitive play because you gave him an AOE ENGAGE DISENGAGE ULTIMATE THAT CAN MOVE AN ENTIRE TEAM ACROSS THE MAP. which is cool! BUT not for fucking ryze!! out I dont understand how BUFFING THE RANGE OF HIS AOE TEAM TELEPORT ULTIMATE is going to make him less dominant in competitive play.

  2. Ryze's waveclear at the moment is EVEN BETTER THEN IT USED TO BE once you hit lvl 6 and scale your ultimate you have the capability to shove faster then a malz asol viktor and every other meta midlane champion and once again WITH AN AOE TEAM TELEPORT (being buffed with the recent rework) you are able to make more plays with your jungler (which is important especially in competitve) and can easily outscale whoever you're laning against.

  3. out of everything this is the most frustrating, HE GOT HIS DMG BUFFED LATE GAME this is so god damn stupid not only because DAMAGE IS NOT WHY RYZE IS GOOD IN COMPETITIVE ITS HIS MOBILITY, WAVECLEAR, AND ABILITY TO MOVE AN ENTIRE TEAM WITH AN ABILITY not only this but ryze does not have any reliable way to get damage off because you gave him the ornn treatment you got rid of his shield and now he CANNOT TRADE AT ALL because he lacks damage until 6 has low resistance and health (health due to his meta starting items) and mana he cannot do anything any other midlane mage (besides the one FUCKING reason hes competitive his ult) cant do he has horrible cc cannot make plays as often and hes so painfully fucking boring because he cant outplay as hard because the new rework makes the champion feel like it was made for a 2 yearold he has almost no reason to ever use his passive movement speed because it takes to long to use and theres no shield to tank for the ammount of time it takes to get it off so youll usually just die.

  4. This is actually the part that makes me so angry it shows such a lack of respect for the champion and the people who play him, YOU PUT HIM ON THE PBE FOR 2 WEEKS AND THERE WERE LIKE 5 DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF HIM AND UNLIKE MALPHITE WUKONG WHO HAVE BEEN BEING TESTED FOR ALMOST 2 MONTHS THE VERSION OF RYZE THAT WAS ON THE PBE THAT GOT PUSHED TO LIVE WAS ONLY UP FOR A WEEK OR LESS IF YOU LOOK UP RYZE REWORK ANYWHERE YOU CANT EVEN FIND A VIDEO OF RYZE ON THE PBE BECAUSE IT WAS SO GOD DAMN RUSHED IT FEELS LIKE RIOT JUST WANTS THE CHAMPION TO SUFFER BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH HIM!

before I go on I love riot, riot is my favorite company and the best company ever I love the people who work there and the riot employees I talk to sometimes but this just breaks my heart I hope you understand.

now that I got that out of the way I have a few ideas that can fix Ryze

  1. Keep the idea of maxing Q its better then maxing Q 3 times then maxing E like it was before it makes him feel alot cleaner and keeps more damage on his skillshots which is how it should be

  2. Keep the idea of having the 40% 70% 100% on his ult BUT instead of 100% (Ryze before the reworked showed he didnt need 100% more damage on his e q's move his ult back to being 2 levels and make it 40% 60% and move his Q back to having 6 levels

  3. I can see how the W change is justified getting rid of the instant snare and putting a cast time on it would make ryze not feel very combo like so I think the change is justified and feels okay

4.the shield should not be removed it just needs to be nerfed the shield should be only scaling off ap and not mana also each time you use the shield it should get weaker and weaker so you cant shield spam top ryze example of that being. so you e twice and it spreads so you q and get shield and movement speed the movement speed should be scaling off of level and the shield on ap, so you use the shield and ms buff and you get a (idk the number) a 200 shield then if you use it again within 6 seconds it goes to a 150 shield then if you use it again within 6 seconds it goes to a 100 shield. like that sorta.

  1. The e mechanic should work the same as when he first got his big rework where you e twice and it spreads or when ur e kills aminion it spreads having it like the way it is right now feels so braindead and so just basic and makes ryze just feel not hard or cool to play it just feels like you have no unique traits anymore.

I have a few other ideas with ryze but those are the main big problems. I obviously dont like his ult and I think its so stupid but it is fine and cool. these are just some cool ideas I have written down in my note pad

  1. When you max q all the way (6 levels) you get the shield and it could either work like I explained where it goes down the more you use it consistently or just is the same as it has been before the rework

  2. When you level up your ult at level 6 and 11 (only 2 levels) you get to chose between shield or ms so example: you hit level 6 and a popup comes up on your summoner icon with a idk a ghost and a barrier icon (kinda like kayn transform) ghost would represent movement speed and barrier would represent shield

  3. Maxing different abilities grant different rewards like syndra passive like maxing q you get the shield on your q passive or maxing e you get the movement speed and maxing w turns it back into a root.

  4. Giving him his old ult back where you activate it and once you activate it you get the shield back on your e e q (this would be the best and coolest change ever and would fix ryze the most I think) It would last like 10-15 seconds would give movespeed and change his w to a .5 root something along those lines

  5. Making his ult revolve around his snare (this idea is a little wild) but keep the way his ult is BUT instead of teleporting his team ryze sends the big portal that usually teleports people into an aoe snare that last 1 second it would root everyone in the area (maybe make it a little smaller or something?) but I thought this would be so cool because rune prison shouldn't be "rune minor inconvenience" it should be something really sool such as that

I have a lot but those are the main ones and YES I know the ideas I present are VERY confusing but confusing is what makes champions fun because once you truly understand them you can take them to their limits and obviously tuning would be needed but this is what alot of people want and making Ryze this baby champion that is boring and brain dead into either the ryze before this patch or another new change like the ones a presented. Thankyou for reading please do something about the current state of Ryze.

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