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Reminder that Sejuani's current pick and win rates are the lowest they've ever been

Heimerdinger Bot·10/25/2018, 6:31:28 PM·61 votes·16,728 views

Currently Sejuani holds a <46% winrate and a steadily declining play rate of <1% (champion.gg statistics), which is worse off than shes ever been as you can see with this site that shows champions past win/play rates https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/sejuani

Sej has been nerfed into oblivion because of profession play and Riot hasnt made any statements on what they plan to do with this shell of a champion, with the last mention of the champion coming from Meddler almost 2 months ago when he said "I expect we'll give Sejuani some further work at some point post Worlds. Not sure on timing or details, but agree more's needed there." Complete radio silence after this vague comment. As a pre-rework Sejuani 1-trick this deeply disappoints me because not only did they completely change the way this champion functions, they seem to have no clue as to how to make this reworked Sejuani a fair and balanced champion. Even if a revert isn't in store for Sejuani, can we at least have some insight into Riot's plan for this champion? Thank you for reading, looking forward to hearing anything at all about Sej.

81 Comments

SwiftKitten8810/25/2018, 6:33:23 PM28 votes

when you come into the thread expecting to prove the person wrong... but they actually have a valid argument backed by proof and grounded in reason. [zombie-brand-clap] [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Mega Annie X10/25/2018, 9:57:14 PM13 votes

revert the champ so i can get my ap sej back

Tahminatrix 10/25/2018, 11:41:02 PM12 votes

They probably don't know what to do with her and would rather not revert her then apologize (like kogmaw)

Or maybe there is a lot of disagreeing on what to do with her.

Even sejuani in the tank update was controversial among rioters, in the original video they posted that showcased the 3 champions (Zac , maokai, and sej) they explicitly showed how sejuani`s gap closer couldn't be used to traverse thin walls "Because she is a tank" then later she was given the ability to traverse walls and the entire video was deleted and replaced by another one that was shorter and seemed rushed.

And even what they said they were planning on doing with her was nowhere near anything like what they released, they claimed she would be play more as a warmonger meant to rally her frontline and possibly even buff her teammates (with more emphasis on melee champs) , instead she is more of a generic initiator / although sometimes she can counter initiate by knocking any special targets that decide to follow up on the enemy tank with her ult, but most true initiators can counter initiate like that.

I think sejuani players deserve answers (and maybe an apology) , not only for the champion being weak due to competitive play but also for being left in the dark for so long.

Madsin2510/25/2018, 6:47:15 PM8 votes

Atleast sejuani mains in high elo have decent winrates with her.(55%)

Meanwhile trundle sitting at a 47% WR across 200 games with his mains.

THANKS LCS!

Cavesloth10/25/2018, 10:01:28 PM6 votes

Well put, Riot needs to make up for the fact that they keep reworking champs to have a much higher skillfloor than the majority of the people who main the champ can handle, completely changing their playstyle, or worse both (like they did with Sej and Galio). STOP TAKING MY CHAMPS FOR PRO PLAY!

Qwinn10/26/2018, 1:37:31 AM6 votes

Give me back my old AP Sejuani!!!

Ravenhale10/25/2018, 6:52:52 PM5 votes

Haven't played Sejuani in years... and she was the champ I "learned" to jungle with. Technically I started with Nidalee... but we don't talk of those days. I got my Assassin crest and that's all that matters. Even if it did take twenty or so games with a KDA looking like a mathematical equation for the limit approaching zero.

I tried running Sejuani after the rework and it just felt off. She felt squishier and her mechanics were a bit more than my fat fingers could handle. I went from jungling Sejuani/Vi to Poppy/Vi shortly after that.

hhaavviikk10/26/2018, 7:58:17 AM5 votes

yeah but she's had her time in the spotlight - Riot

XxDRAGONsAK47xX10/26/2018, 12:06:13 PM5 votes

LB got reverted into her previous OP state....

Sejuani wasn't even complained about before her rework. Just revert her.

KFCeytron10/26/2018, 7:13:22 AM4 votes

Riot doesn't know what to do with Sejuani. At this point, they just

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flail around.

SanKakU10/25/2018, 7:00:29 PM4 votes

Revert her! Ree!

RekSai CoffeeCo10/25/2018, 8:42:08 PM4 votes

Sejuani was nerfed for worlds from what I understand so question remains when will the worlds nerfs be reverted?

Tusutaki10/26/2018, 6:40:43 AM4 votes

Well the core issue she suffers currently is her kit being obnoxiously loaded. I still have no idea why Sej ever needed a rework in the first place since it had strengths and weakness which could always be fined tuned through numbers. Now, Sej along with other champs with overloaded kits like Galio, Fiora, and Gnar, balancing them via numbers is impossible because again, its not their numbers but their kits as a whole. Either they are blatantly OP or just downright bad.

Daddy Ants10/26/2018, 10:55:46 AM3 votes

Reminder: Sejuani requires deeper changes then a few numbers adjustments.

If she's viable in regular play she pushes out most of the other junglers in the professional scene.

boricCentaur110/25/2018, 7:26:45 PM3 votes

if you look at Japan she has a 66.7% winrate and a 1.3% playrate,if you look at Korea she has a 52.8% winrate with a .5% playrate and if you look at Turkey she has a 63.6% winrate and a 2.7% player. all of these numbers are in diamond+ I do not have a point but I wanted to point this out so that's my point.

Ifneth10/27/2018, 6:05:04 PM2 votes

I play Ashe and deserve to see one of her nemeses on the field of battle.

jocomotion10/27/2018, 5:29:55 AM2 votes

You sir have my respect. I hope you get the answers you’re looking for.

Marothennan10/25/2018, 7:30:38 PM2 votes

And how is that a bad thing? Really hope she's never meta again

GreenKnight10/26/2018, 3:15:06 PM2 votes

Pff, just revert her. I mean, old Seju had some problems, sure, but nowhere near as this current iteration. And it's all because of those dumb mega updates.

AggressiveCheeto10/26/2018, 6:41:36 PM2 votes

i like the concept of the champ but would like her to be playable so whatever gives me that im ok with but at the moment shes not worth playing. Here's to hopeing she gets something better

Velasan10/26/2018, 7:24:41 PM2 votes

As someone who started the game on Sejuani way back when I had no idea what I was doing and still play her to this day I agree with you.

IMO the easiest thing to do would be change the E to not be able to stack by allies. Make it take 1 less hit, and only able to stack if Sejuani hits something or uses the W. Then take the power that was smashed into the E and make it so the ultimate can freeze multiple targets again instead of just one.

Originally they said they wanted to give her more skill expression than being an ult bot, but the current version just turns her into an E bot instead where you mash the key through every team fight. It's too powerful for a CC she can activate any time she wants just by being nearby, so they have to keep watering down her abilities to keep her on the edge of being mildly relevant yet not very good to actually play. By that standard I would rather have the Sejuani that is actually fun to play back. Sejuani

Full Brain10/27/2018, 4:26:16 AM2 votes

I used to really enjoy the character and bought poro rider for her which is one of my favorite skins in the game but now I have to use an ARAM reroll every time it gives me her because it is basically an instant loss she is so worthless.

onionsan0110/26/2018, 8:20:35 AM1 votes

What about galio ryze azir shen?

TheOtherWoman10/27/2018, 3:24:18 AM1 votes

Ohhh get over it, kalista has had a low win rate for years, riot said deal with it so deal with Sejuani low win rate, welcome to the club