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Vayne feels like poop right now, and Kat? Don't get me started. Just revert her.

Tcest x3··4 votes·974 views

Hello everyone,

I just wanted to say what I thought about my two favorite champs right now. And see what others thought.

On my main I have been playing adc more because I got bored of midlane. I play Katarina mainly, (somtimes veigar, ahri, etc) and she feels to clunky and delayed to play right now, kinda miss the old kat more and more everyday. Leblanc can q,r,q me and boom instant dmg, me? Gotta wait for both daggers to fall for 20 seconds. Shit like that isnt fair. Katarina feels like a mage. Everyone just walks around or away from daggers. Lol. Just revert her already. People say "nO, iNsTant dAmAGe iSnT fAiR" but is that not the purpose of an assassin? To deal massive burst damage when you are vulnerable? How is annie a mage, but Katarina an assassin? How can a "mage" deal instant burst damage, but an "assassin" cant? I dont get it. Her identity feels off. Katarina doesnt feel like the katarina she was for years, anymore.

Anyways, playing adc has been fun and all, but I remember I used to play Vayne way back and it felt like I had a chance to outplay and outmaneuver the enemy adc, or outburst, depending on what I did, or built. It was a matchup of skill. But now like, Jhin, Kaisa, Draven, MF, they all oneshot you no matter who you play, and no matter what part of the game it is. Vayne use to have presence mid and late game with her ultimate, and her q crit. Now she feels like shes never relevant unless she is building guinsoos. But even with Guinsoos, she still has to let stacks build up. You cant really experiment with her anymore. You are forced to build guinsoos everygame, it sucks. I feel like "hmm i wanna play vayne, but do I want to feel like a robot who has to follow the same exact build another game, since i have to, todo any damage?" Her ulti feels like crap and buffing her q cd isnt gonna make it any better. I feel like shes missing a punch in her kit, seeing as every other adc had a sh*t ton of damage in theirs. Why not bring her q crit back? of buffer her ulti? something. I used to feel like i had an even matchup based on skill when i play her, now she just feels like a handicap if you dont build guinsoos like you are forced to. :l To be honest nothing feels like an even matchup based on skill anymore. Everyone has so much damage lol.

Kk, end rant. :p

6 Comments

Hochelaga3 votes

these kinds of comment regarding a champion is usually felt on low division elo. If you really main both champions, you should know how to get out of sticky situations and turn the tide against them.

Mordepool3 votes

Not oppresive is probably a good spot for both of them.

Malak2 votes

I just got raped by a Silver 2 Vayne that went 29/3 and got 2 penta kills in my normal game.

I think she's fine.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Revert Katarina?

So you want to go back to that brainless QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQEWR combo Katarina used to be?

Vekkna1 votes

Kat needed some of the counterplay added in her update. I think the issue is that they added too many layers of counterplay and too high of a reward for managing to execute it.

Basically, if you just revert her W you get to keep most of the counterplay and skill expression while also removing most of the QoL nightmares and lowering the skill floor/cap to a place that's in line with other assassins.

Noor Sakata1 votes

Vayne is pretty strong actually , she just has a meh early " doesn't mean her early is garbage "

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