Why AP Caster are so behind ?

DhreïRack··0 votes·339 views

I was wondering, i'm playing AP Caster (not assassin) on mid lane for over 3-4 years now, and they have never been so weak vs AD, AD Tank, Tank ? AD have easy combination with Qss malmortus and most armors but AP Caster have only zhonyas

AD Assassin, AD Tank = Regen, lethality, most have mobility, speed move or even dashs, high builds changes without losing dmg, lifesteal, critical hits, attack speed, easy combination with armors (not loosing efficiency), anti-AP Items (qss, malmortus, the new cape), easy bruiser, cooldowns redution

Tank = Well tank are meta, they are tanky as f*ck but its their roles, now with heavy cc and easy aoe damage, easy bruiser, kiteable

Ap Caster = one anti-AD item, no armor combination worth it (loosing way too much efficiency, or at the cost of most dmg), low mobility for most, cooldowns, cooldowns redution, hitboxes ... just wrong (seen many spells not applying passives or even with ennemies walking trough lux's Q or mismatched visuals), squishy (and useless if tanky), almost 0 dmg per %hp, no more spellvamp

My main is lux, i also play malz sometimes, they got so much behind, even the shield of malz is now useless, it get canceled by any spell any passive any auto attack even the ghosts from a support item and it doesnt cancel any effects (if braum punch me, i still get the passive, if brand use his column, still get the passive, if i get slowed, still cancel the shield without taking dmg) and lux, i see people walking trough her spells all the time, visuals are still bugged, no more room for most Ap Caster because they are easy targets that need heavy protection and they can't take down any tanks or AD off-tanks in a burst so they need their CD all time, they can't 1v1 almost everytime and can't afford loosing farm/lane/tower/cs or they will be useless the rest of the game...

4 Comments

Warlord Scrap1 votes

Ap casters were established as kill threat before ap scaled to turrets. When they changed that they nerfed the ap on most ap items so they couldnt chunk towers.

DhreïRack1 votes

It's not a reason to make them too easy to counter, to focus and to take down by almost every champion ... since ad still have advantages in pushing capacity .. (except maybe ziggs ofc)

xJLx MCHammer1 votes

Yeah a lot of AP mages have lost a lot of their threat potential. We are literally entering a point in the game design where AP champions are more squishy than ad champions. More importantly, these AP champions (not all) are put designed and expected to be in with assassin and very aggressive champions like Talon, Kat, Zed.

DhreïRack1 votes

If riot keep increasing the power of AD champions, making AD Items and Anti-AP Items, I will be forced to switch to an array of other champs that I'm less willing to play just because it's getting too hard to win carry or barely play AP Casters ...

Maybe even leave the game since there is no point of playing if you don't like it anymore ...

Patches have been made, they get nerf after nerf and they get their ban rates dropping to the ground since they are not a threat to any team except if over fed or banned by another midlaner to avoid an easy counter (unlike Assassins, tank, and top getting banned often like yasuo). For the last 2 seasons, most of the bans on mid lane were AP/AD Assassins like kata fizz zed yasuo, I never seen anything else than Syndra Syndra on the other side... The highest AP Caster's ban rate is for Arhi Ahri , a mobility AP assassin that is only viable because her ulti makes her an harder target, and still people seems to be crying about this ...

I really hope they do something to put AP Casters back on track, not overpowered but viable without relying only on their team to protect them from all the threats they already have like an ADC and harder to outplay/counter since they barely can get back in their game if they lose early.

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