Garen's current status

Seigsss·8/16/2018, 8:42:26 PM·1 votes·1,205 views

I just played a Nocturne Jungle game where the enemy team had a garen. Now our Aatrox wasn't doing great against the Garen early, but who does? This Garen built pretty much no tank items. He went Tri Force, Steraks gage, Maw, Youmuus and a GA. SO he did a lot of dmg which is understandable. What I don't understand is the huge amount of damage he is able to tank with this build. I get there are some health items in there, but with my team being made up of Aatrox, Akali,Nocturne, Soraka and Caitlyn, it should not take the whole team to kill one bruiser who doesn't even have big tank items built like Thornmail or Warmogs even. Not too mention his q did like 1000 dmg and he could run me down while I was in nocturne shadow trails. It felt extremely unbalanced and un fun for all of us. We are just playing Draft pick trying to play League and have fun and this garen presses q and deletes our whole team; All while eating all of our dmg and burning down our towers like it's nothing. The tank meta is fun for the tanks but feels very unfun for everyone else.

17 Comments

Critmaster Garen8/16/2018, 8:50:07 PM4 votes

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True Garen8/17/2018, 1:15:08 AM4 votes

Aatrox should beat Garen in Lane. It's actually a matchup that is difficult for Garen to win. Your Aatrox was bad and Garen got fed. I know that he was bad because he thought that building a Mortal Reminder against Garen would help. Even so, he actually didn't feed much. It seems that you also, had the misconception that Grievous Wounds are an effective counter to Garen's passive.

The Garen did itemize for defense against the most fed on your team, the Akali. Actually, even though he only built one "big tank item" (I'll consider the Maw) 5 of his 6 items had defensive stats. The result is pretty tanky: 60 armor 50 MR 700hp just from the items. The game went long, so he had his full bonus resistances and also another ~500hp from Grasp + Overgrowth.

I'll also point out that the enemy team was a full premade, and that Garen and his Jungler have played together in 15 of his last 20 games. Perhaps matchmaking failed you on this one.

Quiet Dude8/16/2018, 8:51:18 PM2 votes

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I just played a Nocturne Jungle game where the enemy team had a garen. Now our Aatrox wasn't doing great against the Garen early, but who does?

Aatrox does

IPOeFTQWz68/16/2018, 8:53:13 PM1 votes

u dont have to flame man, garen is not fun to play against sure tahts why i ban him.

NemeBro8/17/2018, 1:19:42 AM1 votes

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I just played a Nocturne Jungle game where the enemy team had a garen. Now our Aatrox wasn't doing great against the Garen early, but who does? This Garen built pretty much no tank items. He went Tri Force, Steraks gage, Maw, Youmuus and a GA. SO he did a lot of dmg which is understandable. What I don't understand is the huge amount of damage he is able to tank with this build. I get there are some health items in there, but with my team being made up of Aatrox, Akali,Nocturne, Soraka and Caitlyn, it should not take the whole team to kill one bruiser who doesn't even have big tank items built like Thornmail or Warmogs even. Not too mention his q did like 1000 dmg and he could run me down while I was in nocturne shadow trails. It felt extremely unbalanced and un fun for all of us. We are just playing Draft pick trying to play League and have fun and this garen presses q and deletes our whole team; All while eating all of our dmg and burning down our towers like it's nothing. The tank meta is fun for the tanks but feels very unfun for everyone else.

Your build on Noc in that game is one of the worst I can think of that doesn't involve building AP.

Even your Aatrox's shitty build made more sense than yours did.

You have an Akali with Youmuu's LOL

SirLucsean8/18/2018, 4:56:44 AM1 votes

When I'm up against Ashe Soraka Teemo Sona Sivir Vayne Jhin I pick Garen [garen-swing] as support to butcher bot lane.