Rookie support having bad time with low mmr

Sardina project·10/10/2016, 12:05:11 AM·1 votes·459 views

Hey so i wantes to know does having S or S+ while loosing a game as support affect how mush mmr i lose ? And how can i progress if i can't carry ! i mean i do wards and i always ping people to fall back but they doesnt and get baited and never plays objectives such as drakes and towers :( Ps : i'm silver 5 i just joined the game months ago

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Hencho10110/10/2016, 12:16:39 AM1 votes

So i was a support main back in S5 and was stuck in B2 so your already ahead of me, but anyways. So the way i "carried" as support was play the support that are based around keeping YOUR ADC ALIVE and counter engage. My main was Braum and i was able to get my ADC ahead ALLOT and happened to get a Draven a penta at some point. Just PEEL for your carries, do NOT ENGAGE, you will have no one peeling for your carries and the other tanks(if you have them) will just go up to help fight. The best way to clime as a support main(at least the way i would see it) find a good ADCarry player and ask them to duo. If you can get a good ADC player with you being a good support player, win your lane and in the lower ELOs you and him/her should be able to carry games. Finding a good ADC player WILL be hard TRUST ME(good support players are even HARDER<<<< coming from a high silver ADCarry main), but if you can find some one you did well with in a lane, ask for duo and if they do well again keep duoing with them. But if it was just a good game for them then just remove them and move on with life. And the way to carry as support w/o a duo, it's SUPER hard. You NEED to keep the carries alive and keep the map warded and be a SHOTCALLER* if you need. This is one of if not THE best way to clime the lower ELOs, be a good shotcaller. Hope this helps :)

*A shotcaller is some one who calls out the plays to make, be it who to kill in a team fight, what objectives to take, where wards need to be placed, ect

BeeCuz10/10/2016, 12:30:51 AM1 votes

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does having S or S+ while loosing a game as support affect how mush mmr i lose ?

The post-game summary screen has a couple pieces of info that aren't being saved -- letter grade & LP awarded -- and get lost when the game instead displays a PvP.net connection lost issue.

The LP awards can be tracked through the league rank window which shows current LP, but letter grades cannot.

The portion of games that end in PvP.net connection lost is more than a reasonable level of uncertainty, so efforts to track letter grade are currently not going to produce any valid measurements.

razorrules10/10/2016, 1:01:39 AM1 votes

This is all just from my experience I climbed out of bronze3 and into gold 5 season5 and silver3 to plat5 this season

It don't matter if you get a S / S+ you are still going to lose the same amount of LP.

Champion Pool: You wanna pick a high burst support (like Annie & Brand) or a very aggressive tank (like Leona & Thresh) back when I was in low elo I learned that it was better to just snowball like crazy rather then try and play for teamfights / late game therefore a champion like Janna is not that good(in low elo she is still a great champion however).

Laning Phase: Try and poke your enemy out of lane, a good way to poke is every time they go up to last hit a mage minion just auto attack them, they then have to make the choice of getting 20gold and losing the trade or auto attacking you(even trade pre lvl6) and miss the 20gold, and then run back into your bush so the minions lose vision of you and stop attacking you (just run back if the bush is warded) and if you are running thunderlords its great to auto, ability and then auto for a great chunk of their HP. If they are real low tell your adc to stop pushing the wave and freeze close to your tower. And then stand in front of their minions and just zone them from getting the cs, this is a great idea pre recall because they wont get the gold they need to match you first back. Once you do get back you have much better items and you need to abuse that(poking hard) and depending on the situation you can just constantly shove and try and get the tower. Make sure you always have a pink ward down and tell your adc to get one too.

Mid/Late Game: After you get bot lane tower see if you can rotate mid and get tower, and if you cant look at top lane and see if you can get that. make sure your adc is following you(if your adc is fed enough to 2v1 then feel free to just constantly roam and go for objectives just keep a eye on the map), and just keep rotating through towers and apply pressure to every lane. And if you are working on inhib / inner towers make sure you are always trying to steal the enemy junglers farm, and always be ready for when dragon comes up. Make sure you are constantly warding all over the place.

Team Fights: If your adc is doing great then just stay on top of him and peel hard core for him and if his not just try and jump on the back lines(if you are a bursty support that is) and once you take out one of their carries jump back on your adc and peel the tanks if he is still alive if hes not then just keep going hard on backline. however do not do this if they have a really good peel team comp / tanky. if you are playing a tank support however try and get a good engage and then just peel for your adc. This is just a really rough outline on playing team fights and most of it is situational so you will need to make your own judgment.

Final Tips: Realize you cant win them all, there are some games where you just cant win so don't beat yourself up over it. Climbing in ranked is a process and it takes time, so make sure you don't get tilted after every loss. Take breaks and don't play while you are tired (you play alot worse then you think trust me)

This game is ALL about situational stuff and you will learn more and more as time goes on however I hope you learned something from my rough idea on how a ideal game would go, remember this is all just from personal experience, and you can always ask me if you have any questions!

Sardina project10/10/2016, 1:13:21 AM1 votes

i main Soraka atm and i have climbed from bronze 3 to silver 4 and now i'm demoted to silver 5 can't get up again because when i lose game i love around 22 lp but when i win i get 14 15lp :'(