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League is just disappointing now, win or lose it's not fulfilling or even remotely fun at all

PistoCara··88 votes·15,432 views

Wins aren't fulfilling at all, they're just a time-waster where all you can think is: "Wow this sure is fun doing one rotation and killing someone, guess I'll take that free 20 minute baron now..."

Losses are just numbing disappointment where all you can think is: "Wow this sure is fun dying in one rotation, guess they're going to take that free 20 minute baron now..."

You're not allowed to play anything that isn't strictly meta unless you want to get your shit pushed in by the oh so fair Quinn MonkeyKing Zed Camille Irelia Zoe etc that slips their cancer-ridden cesspit spawned hides into your matches because the people behind them want to win with the least amount of effort and brainpower possible.

And really it's not like you're even working towards anything anymore... Oh WOW! You made it to challenger Rank 1 abusing whatever flavor of the month Riot can't be bothered to balance? You got scouted to play in the LCS? WOW! I'm sure it'll be awesome playing a 20 minute no action farmfest in front of all the 5 people that bothered to show-up/tune-in to watch it just for a coin-flip to decide the victory by divining which team picks someone off before running over to baron and then effortlessly running it down mid with unstoppable minions.

What happened to this game?

49 Comments

Shmeeve25 votes

what happened to this game huh?.... well it all started when riot grabbed the patch gauntlet and found the 8.11 patch and said: With the snap of our fingers, we can wipe the half of our player fanbase.

Nea1047 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lord Apex,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hE3fsZ8Y,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-07-28T06:09:26.936+0000)

what happened to this game huh?.... well it all started when riot grabbed the patch gauntlet and found the 8.11 patch and said: With the snap of our fingers, we can wipe the half of our player fanbase.

They started in pre-Season, and just made everything worse patch after patch :P

Śhunpo12 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lord Apex,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hE3fsZ8Y,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-07-28T06:09:26.936+0000)

what happened to this game huh?.... well it all started when riot grabbed the patch gauntlet and found the 8.11 patch and said: With the snap of our fingers, we can wipe the half of our player fanbase.

Nah, more like preseason. ADCs deserved that patch soooo much after the shit they put us through in Ardent meta.

Marothennan2 votes

I thought supports were buying Ardent, not ADCs?

Makimoke7 votes

What was rough in the Ardent meta was not the supports buying them, it was the ADC benefitting way too much from them. Bonus damage, bonus on heals & shields, making them attack harder while being tougher to kill.

Tobykachu4 votes

It was both supports and adc's that abused ardent. Supports that couldn't buy it and adc's that didn't benefit from it too much were by far the weakest champions in the game at that point, simply because of how much easy power they lost out on.

Śhunpo2 votes

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I thought supports were buying Ardent, not ADCs?

They certainly were, but ADCs still did a significant amount of damage themselves, and then we had preseason to 8.3 where Targon's was being abused and ADCs were borderline unkillable due to shield stacking from Targon's, Overheal and their support, along with Fleet Footwork being bonkers and crit. items +Guinsoo's making them hit like semi-trailers.

DarkKatalyst8 votes

Are you forgetting it was Riot that made Ardent the way it was and left it like that for a long time? It was a mess of their own creation that they let fester.

Nipsahoy1 votes

{quoted}

Nah, more like preseason. ADCs deserved that patch soooo much after the shit they put us through in Ardent meta.

Because ADCs are the ones that design the game.. lol. It's not even an adc item.

Śhunpo1 votes

{quoted}

Because ADCs are the ones that design the game.. lol. It's not even an adc item.

I would agree, but ADCs at the time were hitting like semi-trailers rolling down a 70 degree hill.

Jaygo411 votes

Except this sort of vindictive bullshit is exactly what causes people to start screaming for blood in the first place and the victim being drastically overnerfed. Is this the sort of wild pendulum swinging people want when it comes to this damn game? It's not fun. Your attitude is what's wrong with the community.

Śhunpo1 votes

{quoted}

Except this sort of vindictive bullshit is exactly what causes people to start screaming for blood in the first place and the victim being drastically overnerfed. Is this the sort of wild pendulum swinging people want when it comes to this damn game? It's not fun. Your attitude is what's wrong with the community.

Uuuuh I mean I would agree, if people didn't let bruisers and assassins sit at the back of the bus for almost 3 years. Then ADCs, supports and tanks go through that and suddenly everyone is up in arms and wants Riot's blood.

Albeit you are right, I suppose my attitude is far from perfect.

RainXBlade4 votes

With the snap of our fingers, we can wipe the half of our player fanbase.

Dude, 2 more patches to go, and the patch gauntlet is finished. Now Rito can wipe out half of their playerbase in no time!

Also wasn't this mentioned in one of MagikarpUsedFly's League of Failures?

Shmeeve1 votes

yes, but it's such a good meme for this

SwiftKitten881 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lord Apex,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hE3fsZ8Y,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-07-28T06:09:26.936+0000)

what happened to this game huh?.... well it all started when riot grabbed the patch gauntlet and found the 8.11 patch and said: With the snap of our fingers, we can wipe the half of our player fanbase.

that was 8.10 but ok

Tormentula2 votes

it was 8.11 actually.

https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-811-notes

8.10 just fucked over the jungle, but everything that wasn't viable after the patch, wasn't viable to begin with anyway and everything that was very established was still strong as fuck either way.

SwiftKitten881 votes

{quoted}

it was 8.11 actually.

https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-811-notes

8.10 just fucked over the jungle, but everything that wasn't viable after the patch, wasn't viable to begin with anyway and everything that was very established was still strong as fuck either way.

u don't "just" fuck over the entire jungle

if u didnt pick a lvl 2 duelist that could contest scuttle.. u lose... PERIOD

i actually quit the game for the entire patch before of that shit

yeah 8.11 may have fucked a lot of things, but it also bandaid fixed the horrific jungle changes. meaning i was willing to come back and play.

Blakiepug20 votes

Runes reforged happened... :(

RainXBlade5 votes

I'll give you that. That's a factor to League's decline.

However, I feel like the issue began with either: the assassin rework, or season 7 in general.

3TWarrior2 votes

started in season 6 but it was only "minor" problems then, well, a lot of minor problems started stacking up

Nea10415 votes

Their "stomp or get stomped" ill philosophy finally has given its ill fruits.

DarkKatalyst8 votes

What happened to this game?

Riot thinks they know best and don't want to yield. If they want to play the dictators, they can go right ahead because they can't force people to play their game.

And no Riot, this will not heal with time. League is already on a general decline (because the game industry is shifting), and you're just speeding up the process.

5050BS6 votes

Yep. After getting to S1 three time only to have afker/trolls over and over on my team push me back down to S4 I got back to S3 this last time and it was stupid hard there are so many afkers/trolls that Im done until S9 and we will see if the change to Rank will do anything.

I literally got to S1 promos twice to have first two games have troll run down mid feeders. Im thinking they check op.gg and if they see someone at 100 LP they out right feed to troll.

Back in S3-5 the MMR system actually matches goodish games. Today the toxic/smurf players out number the friendly trying to win players.

DNFVixen6 votes

{quoted}

Wins aren't fulfilling at all, they're just a time-waster where all you can think is: "Wow this sure is fun doing one rotation and killing someone, guess I'll take that free 20 minute baron now..."

Losses are just numbing disappointment where all you can think is: "Wow this sure is fun dying in one rotation, guess they're going to take that free 20 minute baron now..."

You're not allowed to play anything that isn't strictly meta unless you want to get your shit pushed in by the oh so fair Quinn MonkeyKing Zed Camille Irelia Zoe etc that slips their cancer-ridden cesspit spawned hides into your matches because the people behind them want to win with the least amount of effort and brainpower possible.

And really it's not like you're even working towards anything anymore... Oh WOW! You made it to challenger Rank 1 abusing whatever flavor of the month Riot can't be bothered to balance? You got scouted to play in the LCS? WOW! I'm sure it'll be awesome playing a 20 minute no action farmfest in front of all the 5 people that bothered to show-up/tune-in to watch it just for a coin-flip to decide the victory by divining which team picks someone off before running over to baron and then effortlessly running it down mid with unstoppable minions.

What happened to this game?

This is what happens when you have Ghostcancer in charge of shit.

Primaquarius4 votes

#Kappa

PistoCara18 votes

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Primaquarius12 votes

Youre attacking me, someone who never had a voice to begin with because of my rank, as if I could singlehandedly change this game

Why dont you leave instead, while players like me slowly dissolve into madness because ladder is a joke

AR URF2 votes

{quoted}

And then there's the enablers like this, these shameful losers that just sit back with pointless jokes while they let this game die.

Pathetic.

So far I've been two weeks away from this game from playing it 24/7. I go here on the boards still and all the time I see the same stuff. Someone makes an argument and it turns into a meme fest. Then you realize that the age group you're dealing with is probably 14-16. I'm 24 and from what I remember in Jr. high and highschool, that age is when friends are trying to impress others. Then you also realize that people don't really care about the content the OP has. They're more interested in the comments for some reason. I mean it's fine to listen to others opinions, as long as you make valid arguments, which won't happen when someone turns it into a meme.

Harden Stepback4 votes

I’m done with this game. Nothing fun about it and it feels like more of a hassle than anything else.

TheWizardM3 votes

Ever tried custom games? It takes a while to fill a lobby at the start, but after a while you can fill up your friends list to fill them quicker ^^

They are tons of fun, and, though they take less time than normals, are generally less onesided.

A few relatively popular gamemodes: ABAM (aram with blind pick. FIlls really fast though ins't very interesting. Most lobbies have a " no pushing" rule so they can just play for fun instead of for a win) Draft Racing (kind of like soccer, but in league) Protect the Soraka Bot (got even more interesting now that the bots pick lanes more dynamically) Find the Teemo (personally I find this one less interesting, but it does fill reasonably well)

Shmeeve1 votes

find the teemo sounds like a minefield

TheWizardM1 votes

it's not really. The Teemo is not allowed to attack players (unles she is found), and soaking exp is not allowed so you won't hit level 2.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1148913

Duskz1013 votes

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Impekkable3 votes

This is just your salty after-loss post where you went 2/2/12 Karma and lost. You hardly play the game.

You even list Quinn and Wukong as the first two champs you complain about---two champs you were playing against that game.

"Not allowed to play anything non-meta". This statement doesn't apply to sub-Diamond 1. You could argue that at D1 and above you need to adhere to the meta in order to climb, but even that's debatable, especially on NA. If you're in Gold and unable to climb or win games, then you're just bad and need to get better at the game.

There are so many little skill factors that go into your ability to influence the game that apply to ANY champion you play, meta or not: lane management, last hitting, denying CS by zoning, tracking the enemy jungler, proper warding, back timings, when to roam, when to rotate, playing too passive, playing too aggressive, tilting, etc.

I'll bring up my first point again: you barely play. You don't know the game.

Wins don't feel satisfying to you and losses feel numbing because chances are you have no clue why you're winning or losing, so you make the false causation and attribute it to the champ you picked/teammates to the champs the enemy team picked. That isn't why you lost your game at low gold MMR.

Jamaree2 votes

Can I have your account?

Colton1472 votes

I agree; buff Corki.

Kasyrgan2 votes

Buddy, I don't know what you're talking about.

  1. I rarely see those champs in game if ever. All of them have below 14% pickrate.
  2. Most of those champs aren't even in a broken state with all but Quinn being below 52% winrate. I know winrate isn't everything but it still indicates a champion's balance state at that moment.
  3. All of the champs listed are more mechanically intensive than the average champion.
  4. LCS brings in millions live and even more online.
  5. Some of the best plays you will ever see happen in a professional setting.
  6. I don't know if you have an alt account but the one you're posting this on is level 32 currently. So if you don't have an alt account, you really haven't played the game enough to be complaining like this.

Please elaborate further, because this post confuses me. [sg-zephyr]

FixHealsRemoveGW1 votes

For those who didn't notice it, this is a hyperbole and should be treated as such. (just like pretty much any other gameplay thread in the history of LoL)

MasterDClone1 votes

I enjoy the game a lot right now and i love how many different playstyles are viable and i can try plenty of things out with runes reforged, i have a lot of fun in ranked aswell which i didn't have at all last season. I you really hate both winning and losing in this game i recommend taking a break or just quitting altogether because if a video game isn't fun for you find one that is

KlydeFrog1 votes

People cry over anything in the game. Ohhh man you lose to sol or braum mid and all of a sudden nerf braum mid or sol its op broken........ Thats the community. No one champ is op and or broken, they werent played before and were say "broken" before. Say graves......and now the flavor of the month Quinn. Yawn everychamp is strong and op. Hell morg and mumu are probably the strongest champ in the game........ Play renekton agaisnt quinn you will crush her

Rıots Bad Client3 votes

as items are changed. Some champions are effected more than others. item 3095 and item 3147 Both worked really well with Quinn and WuKong, Which is why they were really bad, UNtill the items become way to good. So instead of nerfing the items they nerf the champions, then they nerf the items leaving those champions IN a really bad spot. What people complain about "Flavor of the month" is actually who and what synergies this patch.

So yea, If braum Mid becomes absolutely busted with item 3030, You KNow they'll people will complain till its changed/Nerf.

(Synergy with runes reforged also exists)

KlydeFrog1 votes

Okay i dont see any body complaing about zil even though he has a really high damaging low cd move and as you said syncs with his q......again those items havent changed in how long and just now people are crying. First it was graves nothing changed now its quinn....i just went leo top and smacked quinn around.... Ez af to beat when you have engage. Then came the crying from her in all chat about her jungler not ganking. I was under my turret most of the time so yah.

DU Baymax1 votes

I disagree with basically everything you said but I respect you as a person. 😁

GFREEMEN1 votes

Yep just started Ranked

2/9 with 5 games of afkers/Troll (like literal run it down mid kind of trolls) and Im placed in S5.

5 of those games I literally could do nothing to win. My team could do nothing because of these toxic players and Im punished because of it.

In normals Im vs Gold 3-Plat 4 players

Ranked is a Joke

Beacon Academy1 votes

Right now, I think Riot is hoping that newer and younger players with more free time will be able to replace the population that grew up with the game.

But I wonder how many of the next generation will start playing a game that is constantly shit talked by the older players and even if they get past that... How many will even stick with a game full of more experienced players, who will not only stomp them in matches, but will also shit talk them for being bad.

Because yea... Older players can always quit the game but... Some might find it more effective to make the game as toxic as possible to get others to quit.

Bob the Toastr1 votes

It's kind of amazing how many posts similar to this I've seen in the past few days/weeks.

Sensanaty1 votes

lmao I've seen this exact title and OP content in every single season of this game, even as early as S1.

Truly amazing, never change, boards

DiabolicalDude1 votes

I agree with the OP but Irelia sucks and has the lowest win rate in the game. You should probably edit your post and remove her.

Spirt Gun Yuske1 votes

M M M tasty post

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