why is fizz allowed to miss his ult then 2 shot me with dfg+q?

I Had One Beer·10/8/2014, 1:13:05 AM·26 votes·3,882 views

the fuck? balanced?

56 Comments

Anbaric10/8/2014, 3:01:43 AM13 votes

I don't know. His design seems flawed to me. Skilled acrobat that can dodge attacks on a low cd, or one-shot nuker? Those goals are very at odds with each other. I think his W should be reworked to make his other abilities ramp up in damage the more Q's he lands on someone in a short span of time, but his ratios besides his one skillshot ult should be gutted. Make him have to stay in the fight and actually use skill, either E'ing or dodging the old fashioned way to dodge heavy attacks if he wants to do damage. Nimble fish mage. That's who he is.

HeraldOne10/8/2014, 2:45:27 AM12 votes

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Azlagor10/8/2014, 2:55:47 PM9 votes

why is ahrie allowed to miss Q and E and kill me with dfg+W+3R? why is Syndra allowed to miss her stun and W and still take over80% of my helath with dfg+R? why can Lissandra burst a squishy 100-0 with dfg as cc+dps mage? why can.....dfg+...?

The thing cummon in all this cases is DFG(and probably some feed). Dfg really needs some change, or just nerfs.

Hayaishi10/8/2014, 1:28:33 AM8 votes

He's a bullshit champion in need of nerfs.

FooDang10/8/2014, 3:43:04 AM6 votes

the fuck? balanced?

That Fizz was fed...he's an assassin...ADC's are squishy...you do the math...

Skia Asteri10/8/2014, 4:40:17 PM5 votes

Deathfire Grasp is an OP item that lets every champion with abilites that do magic damage and scale on AP be an assassin. The problem is just more obvious on champions that are already assassins.

Earl Eulrich10/8/2014, 11:28:07 AM5 votes

Same reason so many mages are "allowed" to miss 70% of their skillset and then dfg->point&click kill you:

DFG itself is just a ridiculous problem in it´s current state, empowering the worst kind of pattern (100-0 burst) instead of creating anything interessting.

CerealBoxOfDoom10/8/2014, 11:12:07 AM4 votes

the fuck? balanced?

yes, it is.

He can use dfg as a supplement just like everyone else and I do mean EVERYONE

that includes sivir and zed

Mandaari10/8/2014, 1:15:15 AM4 votes

Technically it's DFG + Q + W since Q applies W.

But yeah, fuck Fizz.

Junkο10/8/2014, 4:32:15 PM4 votes

Meanwhile Veigar will DFG+R kill you while he is 0/20 and you CANNOT dodge it once you get into his range

EndlessSorcerer10/8/2014, 3:50:32 PM3 votes

Well, he isn't really just Q'ing you. He's applying his Lichbane and his W on-hit with that burst and damage amplification from DFG. He'll probably AA you a couple times and jump out.

Quite frankly, if he can kill you without his ultimate or E: -Fizz was very fed -You were very behind -You didn't build defenses against the fed assassin

Blaine Tog10/8/2014, 10:14:00 PM3 votes

Fizz is pretty BS, but I still think the real culprit is DFG. There's no reason for it to be in the game. All it's done is make mages harder to balance.

MetalGearTeemu10/8/2014, 10:16:02 PM3 votes

remember kids Talon had no counterplay and had to all in for his assassination attempts and needed to be nerfed quickly and harshly.

But its ok for fizz to have that kind of killing power with just base skills + DFG, while having trollpole.

#LCSBIGPLAYS

Newbert Newman10/8/2014, 3:30:22 PM2 votes

Because you fed him......

Zanphyra10/8/2014, 9:39:51 AM2 votes

Because he has long cooldowns? ... No... Because he is squishy without escapes? ... No... Because he has all skillshots? ... No...

I dunno why.

JevelFaithful10/8/2014, 2:42:23 PM2 votes

Why did you allow him to get so much gold? Or why were you so squishy in the first place?

I Main Swain10/8/2014, 8:39:50 PM1 votes

depends: how fed was he?

honestly, the only problem I have with fizz is his late game e cooldown.

Kuroi8610/8/2014, 6:37:16 PM1 votes

Just how fed was said Fizz?

RagnarokChu10/8/2014, 10:25:33 AM1 votes

As much I dislike fizz, it isn't imbalanced as in overpowered but more so his kit needs to be reworked more.

I imagine him to be a nimble (somewhat) tanky fish mage that leaps across the battlefield constantly, but since this is league of damage that just means one shot assassin with alot of mobility.

He's almost completely useless if he can't one shot someone and lowered in much effectiveness in higher elos (like in diamond) but in lower Elos being able to jump through everyone with massive damage and dodging most attacks is overwhelming.

A case where someone like akali is picked much more then fizz in higher elos because she can't miss any of her abilities and it resets with no mana cost with near similar damage as fizz.

Hayaishi10/8/2014, 10:42:29 PM1 votes

He's too slippery for the amount of damage he can deal, on top of the fact he doesn't need to aim.

Why does he even have his ultimate? He doesn't need to have such a powerful ability, it's just makes him completely overwhelming to play against.

shadecrapper1/27/2015, 8:21:55 AM1 votes

Play as fizz, then complain.

Angry Monster1/27/2015, 8:34:33 AM1 votes

cry more. Its getting removed already.