Nerf irelia duo to the fizz nerf

Twerking Fizz·Jan 30, 2015·4 votes·942 views

I am a fizz main player, 90% of my ranked games was fizz. I am not satisfied about the nerf to the fizz q. "BUT CAN YOU DODGE A FISH? Fizz no longer deals damage to the target if they move out of range of Urchin Strike before it completes" This is driving me crazy! When I played the fizz, I realized that if fizz against fizz, both fizz q each other, the one who q first doesn't have any damage. When they q to each other, it should not count as move out of range. This happens to Diana,too. I also did the test to Irelia who has similar skill, but the fact is that you can't dodge Irelia q by using flash.

I think if riot want to do this change to fizz, it should be fair to fizz also. Patheon's w should not stun the enemy if enemy flash. Diana R, Jax q.

I am not sure if Lucian could dodge fizz q. Can someone give me the result. Thanks

8 Comments

LongFur FoxJan 30, 20152 votes

The differences being that fizz q while a targeted skill does not land you at where the champion is. All the others send you to the target no matter where they flash to which in some cases can bring them into danger.

TalinisJan 30, 20151 votes

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The differences being that fizz q while a targeted skill does not land you at where the champion is. All the others send you to the target no matter where they flash to which in some cases can bring them into danger.

Uh, no they don't, Pantheon stun doesn't, neither does irelia or jax. If u flash, they don't magically follow you, they jump to where you were. Except their abilities do damage. The other thing that Riot needs to fix is when champions COLLIDE with fizz when he is using Q to them, they SHOULD be hit as well, doesn't matter if it "stops" fizz, he's leading with his trident and if you slam into him, you are getting hurt too. If riot is keeping this change, then they need to make the change where if VI or poppy and other champions slam into a fizz with their body who is Q'ing to them, they need to take damage too. Talk about making sense.

LongFur FoxJan 30, 20151 votes

Irelia, panth and diana all do no damage when they are knocked up mid jump. Even if that is by the target doing it. On following then i don't know about panth and diana as i don't play them as much but irelia follows you if you move during the dash (I have followed leblancks mid dash). This is hard to replicate due to the dash being very fast and most of the time irelia will have landed by the time you dash.

Twerking FizzJan 30, 20151 votes

fizz do no damage if q get interrupted too. What i am saying is the new patch you could dodge fizz q by flash, but for irelia you can't dodge the damage by flash.

LongFur FoxJan 30, 20151 votes

There are no dashes that does damage if interrupted. Also as said before they interact differently than fizz with champion movement.

Twerking FizzJan 30, 20152 votes

This is definitely wrong, patheon the example, if you flash before he lane his w stun on you, you still get stunned.

LongFur FoxJan 30, 20151 votes

I did not say panth did not stun. I said panth stun and fizz q interacts differently with the targets movement. Fizz q does not change depending on how the target moved whereas panth does.

TalinisJan 30, 20151 votes

The problem isn't that they are interrupted, the problem is they are using their body itself to interrupt it, if it was a ranged spell or something else, fine. But you can't just say, we are changing Q because it doesn't make sense if it doesn't hit target, and then have a VI body slam INTO YOUR TRIDENT and it do no damage. You hit them just as they hit you. Either none do damage or they both do. That is a huge inconsistency and they are basically saying with Fizz you have to hit their body, well, I DID. When Q makes CONTACT with the target, it should do damage, period.