S ranks and Champion Mastery 6-7

Redarmy1917··5 votes·1,636 views

The metrics for S ranks need to be changed, especially since champion mastery levels 6 and 7 depend on them now. I've been rank 5 in Fizz for awhile, he's probably my favorite hero to play. Last night I decided I was going to try and get mastery 7 on him. Note, I've only gotten maybe 2 S ranks on Fizz before. So, last night. Fizz mid. 25 minutes and 24 seconds game duration, Victory. Record was 22/4/9, 80 CS. Had a 10 kill streak, got a quadra kill. I did literally more damage to champs than everyone on their team combined excluding Lucian. I got an A-.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2198519309/33390495?tab=stats

Then earlier today. I essentially threw a won game and got an S-. 37:59 game duration. Defeat. 16/6/5. 140 CS. I eventually had to stop going where any of my team was, just so I could get CS. And my team lost the 4v4 or 4v5 fights. By the time I was comfortable with my CS, their team had caught up a lot. I shouldn't have to abandon my team and go farm creeps for a couple of minutes, just to make sure I get an S rank, that's outrageous. I threw the game away, and got rewarded for it. No one should have to throw a game to get an S rank. No one should be REWARDED for throwing a game. Any jungler that just constantly ganks, an ADC that gets an early double kill and can keep killing their lane opponents, won't get S ranks because they are getting their gold from being active and involved in the game so they have literally no need or time to farm creeps and is actually dentrimental to the team if they do all of a sudden stop what they're doing and go back to farming. If bottom lane has a highly active lane, and they are winning their fights, chances are they end up taking the tower out quickly, and then go middle, and so on and so forth. They already got a lead in their kills, so they don't need to farm creeps. But they won't get an S rank because farming creeps is more important than working as a team.

Second game where I got the S-: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2198652767/33390495?tab=overview

Oh, and I don't have the record for the game anymore, it happened about a month ago, but a stronger case for when CS matters too much, I had a 19/2/17 game as Fizz and only got an A+. 22-25 minute long game. My team's volibear also had a pretty decent game, like 9/6/11. Me and him were constantly ganking the other lanes. Everyone else on our team got S ranks because they always stayed in lane to farm. Whereas the game was won off the backs of me and him ganking.

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HomuHomuHomura3 votes

80 cs? lmao desu senpai, git good.

Bulgruf IronJaw2 votes

I have been in games where i went 22/3/15 and with like 150 Cs still no S rank RedArmy can back me up on that

SwiftKitten882 votes

i would just like to say... i agree with you OP, i agree CS is important and being able to to do it properly takes a large amount of skill, but if i get 15-20 kills and fewer than 10 or so deaths. AND i have lost CS. it obviously mean that even WITHOUT the gold the CS would bring i can destroy my opponent.

I'd be MUCH more impressed by a top laner that had a 100 cs and 20 kills at the end of a 40 min game than top laner with 300 cs and 10 kills. because it mean that they lost 200 CS worth of gold and STILL manged to win lane and stay ahead even at what SHOULD be a heavy gold deficit, from having lost 200 Cs worth of gold

Leopards Ghost1 votes

no.

Redarmy19171 votes

What do you mean, "no?"

Leopards Ghost1 votes

i mean you trolled with fizz & expected an S rating for trolling. then played a good solo game with a shit team scored an S and thought you did something wrong.

no.

Redarmy19172 votes

How did I "troll with fizz?" If you mean, I playing Fizz is trolling, well, it kinda is. The team was shit, but I did have to leave it to farm for an S rank...

xX1SaVaGe3Xx1 votes

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The metrics for S ranks need to be changed, especially since champion mastery levels 6 and 7 depend on them now. I've been rank 5 in Fizz for awhile, he's probably my favorite hero to play. Last night I decided I was going to try and get mastery 7 on him. Note, I've only gotten maybe 2 S ranks on Fizz before. So, last night. Fizz mid. 25 minutes and 24 seconds game duration, Victory. Record was 22/4/9, 80 CS. Had a 10 kill streak, got a quadra kill. I did literally more damage to champs than everyone on their team combined excluding Lucian. I got an A-.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2198519309/33390495?tab=stats

Then earlier today. I essentially threw a won game and got an S-. 37:59 game duration. Defeat. 16/6/5. 140 CS. I eventually had to stop going where any of my team was, just so I could get CS. And my team lost the 4v4 or 4v5 fights. By the time I was comfortable with my CS, their team had caught up a lot. I shouldn't have to abandon my team and go farm creeps for a couple of minutes, just to make sure I get an S rank, that's outrageous. I threw the game away, and got rewarded for it. No one should have to throw a game to get an S rank. No one should be REWARDED for throwing a game. Any jungler that just constantly ganks, an ADC that gets an early double kill and can keep killing their lane opponents, won't get S ranks because they are getting their gold from being active and involved in the game so they have literally no need or time to farm creeps and is actually dentrimental to the team if they do all of a sudden stop what they're doing and go back to farming. If bottom lane has a highly active lane, and they are winning their fights, chances are they end up taking the tower out quickly, and then go middle, and so on and so forth. They already got a lead in their kills, so they don't need to farm creeps. But they won't get an S rank because farming creeps is more important than working as a team.

Second game where I got the S-: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2198652767/33390495?tab=overview

Oh, and I don't have the record for the game anymore, it happened about a month ago, but a stronger case for when CS matters too much, I had a 19/2/17 game as Fizz and only got an A+. 22-25 minute long game. My team's volibear also had a pretty decent game, like 9/6/11. Me and him were constantly ganking the other lanes. Everyone else on our team got S ranks because they always stayed in lane to farm. Whereas the game was won off the backs of me and him ganking.

100% agree grade focused on cs not participation

zolinto1 votes

I got an S with 23/4/10 and 151 cs http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/2695346012/28559683?tab=stats so i guess you need to get around 20 kills and 4-5 deaths in a game and a decent amount of assists to get an S rank. But i am still not sure. Hope this helps you

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