Rengar still does 1700 damage in 0.27 seconds.

The fact that this made it through PBE should be the next world wonder. The only thing they did in "delaying" his burst window was giving him a slower Q.

-The ferocity decay is compensated by the fact that you only need 4 bars + leap gives you 1 for free.

-His Q does an absurd amount of damage.

-His passive gives an absurd amount of AD for only killing 5 targets. Yeah 5 targets. Meanwhile, Kindred.

-He now has a new W to overload his kit which makes tank Rengar viable. (You'd think they had enough of tank assassins by now right? Or at least know how to prevent them from happening again)

-The free crit which is guaranteed to land when you leap on someone is insanely strong when you have max passive stacks + IE. You can literally 1-auto-1-shot people if you are ahead enough.

-He can have 350+ AD with 2.5 items. Why is this even allowed? Why? Just why?

The fuck are you thinking, Riot? Tell your design team to get their shit together. I know pre-season is meant for imbalance, but it doesn't take 10 years of testing to see how broken new Rengar is.

Your poll sucks. The time to kill on Rengar is much different than the time to kill on the likes of reworked LeBlanc, Fizz and Katarina.

From my experience the new assassins are now easier to outplay as an ADC, however I'm getting absolutely fucked over by them when playing tanks or bruisers/fighters, whatever they're called, champions like Trundle building 4 tank items+Titanic hydra.

Step 1: Find someone with CC Step 2: Stand near them. Step 3: Laugh as Rengar jumps at the tank and gets slapped down like a bad kitty.

Bad poll, you seem to be talking about the assassin update in general, not just Rengar's.

Well. Vayne does that in 0.00 seconds.

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Rengar still does 1700 damage in 0.27 seconds.

Chill until preseason is over. Like holy hell its a PRE season for a reason.

Rengar still does 1700 damage in .27 seconds...

...if you are too far pushed up and you don't have control wards up and you don't happen to notice that you or an ally near you has that new mark over their head which means you should probably back to somewhere more safe.

The assassin rework might've been trying to change how fast one is able to die, but the TRUE and MOST IMPORTANT goal of this rework, in my opinion, was to add counterplay to the assassins so people can avoid their skills. With Rengar and most of the other assassins, I think this was achieved to a great extent; I can now know when Rengar is invisible, which is a HUGE nerf to Rengar.

(Also, imo, assassins are MADE to punish clumsy enemy play; if you're pushed up without wards, assassins have a much easier time deleting your health bar. Assassins are meant to 100-0 you, and if you don't like it, build tankier or play smarter so that the assassins don't have the time or opportunity to go off.)

I don't agree with your options in the poll. If strictly pertaining to Rengar, then no, it was not a great change.

Be thankful it's late game, because old Rengo kill you early as well.
Also, did you put the tank in front? Might be a good idea.

Poll only applies to rengar. If the context was about Leblanc, Talon and Katarina the results would be so different

I can do almost twice that with Anivia. Context is really important here.

Anivia's w on a full build does like 10 thousand damages cause of it's stupid scaling mechanic. It's op as fuck when it blocks off the escape route of some imobile squishy that the team then bounces on.

http://imgur.com/a/ozHle Do you read patch notes? Do you see what they said? They gave you a huge ass mark that is visible from up to 4000 range. I don't see the problem and they said they're fine with him oneshotting LUL.

He's also the new tank-assassin cancer. Thanks for making me hate this champion even more, Riot! [slayer-jinx-wink]

Well at least now he kills you in 0.27 not in 0.20 xD I see some improvement .

You can see him now though. And his Q is a 2parter so idk.

You forgot option C. Half the assassins die faster

"Did the assassin rework change anything pertaining to how fast one is able to die?"

is the poll referring to the ENTIRE assassin rework, or just Rengar specifically? from my experience, i found that as far as Talon, Leblanc, and Akali are concerned; yes, people do not die as fast as before. however, as far as everyone else (except for Katarina, i can't say anything about her since i haven't fought one yet, nor have i played her), their burst times are either the same, or possibly even stronger than before.

so does must i cry?

If you pink ward, he only does 1700 damage in 0.27 seconds.