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BritishMapper··2 votes·1,340 views

Hello there Gamers :D

Funneling is a thing in league since a while and Riot is trying to remove it entirely from the game which is fair, but I feel like they are not doing enough. Let me explain.

Me and the boys were playing some league, as usual 5 premade ranked flex. We were on like 3 games winning spree and then we met 4 man Yi funnel. After 20 minutes we weren't able to leave our fountain. I checked their op.gg's and, well...

https://i.imgur.com/RS6SPr8.jpg

It's not bannable, they are only showing flaws in the game that should be fixed. It is just stupid. They teach You how roles work, how to build a teamcomp with strong frontline and backline, there are tier lists, guides to play certain champs and so on, but there is Master Yi with Taric ult who 3 shots everyone under towers...

And Before You flame me and my friends for just beeing bad at the game, well it's my 3rd season, I was plat 2 peak last season so it's like 10% of the top and that means even if some diamond players or even plat players can counter that, me and other 90% cannot :(

Riot help pls

16 Comments

Hordes662 votes

Funneling is only possible because Yi is a shit-design champion that needs its legs broken.

T R Y P 2 votes

I honestly think funneling... 4/1... 1/3/1 strats are all healthy for the game.. different strats is good.. what i think is bad is having almost 200 champions but only seeing the same 20 in every game.

Cind3rkick1 votes

Gotta remove the ss or post

No naming n shaming here

Darkdemon6534 votes

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Gotta remove the ss or post

No naming n shaming here

He's not shaming anyone.

Bijeesny1 votes

tl;dr I cannot beat a new strategy, nor i tried to, so i want it to be removed, while using my rank on EUNE to try and make my opinion more valuable.

Knight SoIaire 2 votes

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tl;dr I cannot beat a new strategy, nor i tried to, so i want it to be removed, while using my rank on EUNE to try and make my opinion more valuable.

yeah but if that strategy is to overload one champion with gold and exp... buff him and send to fight 1v5 ... it it something we want in this game?

in the end lol is meant to be a team game and funneling as a strat is meant to pump one person up to the point where he can win solo... and it is done only because that person actualy wins solo.

Bijeesny1 votes

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yeah but if that strategy is to overload one champion with gold and exp... buff him and send to fight 1v5 ... it it something we want in this game?

Those who're not scared to face something new will want something like that, aka, new strategies.

in the end lol is meant to be a team game and funneling as a strat is meant to pump one person up to the point where he can win solo... and it is done only because that person actualy wins solo.

What? xD So 4 people working together to make one guy strong, while sacrificing their own impact and trusting their teammate to win is not teamwork? That one person who "actually wins solo" would not be able to do that without 4 other players working with him.

Pls edit your post and delete part where you said you peaked plat 2 because not even my bronze ass would say dumb shit like this, let alone plat player.

BritishMapper1 votes

It's not a "new strategy" and I don't know why You are keep calling it like that. I remember that happening to me in s8 when I still was really new to the game and back then I didn't even know what is going on and why is it working.

And yeah 5 people working together to make one person strong is good sure. Problem is that there is no much You can do to actually respond to that. It's probably due to how Yi works with taric.

Bijeesny1 votes

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It's not a "new strategy" and I don't know why You are keep calling it like that. I remember that happening to me in s8 when I still was really new to the game and back then I didn't even know what is going on and why is it working.

I never said it's a "new strategy". I said that people who WANT NEW STRATEGIES would want things like funnel yi in the game.

And yeah 5 people working together to make one person strong is good sure. Problem is that there is no much You can do to actually respond to that. It's probably due to how Yi works with taric.

How do you know that? Did you try to find ways to beat it? Like honestly? And what did you try?

BritishMapper1 votes

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tl;dr I cannot beat a new strategy, nor i tried to, so i want it to be removed, while using my rank on EUNE to try and make my opinion more valuable.

Well.. yeah I can see You didn't even read that.

Yes I'm mad I cannot beat that "strategy" because it isn't possible to kill someone immortal.

And also just ignore thread if You have nothing wise to say. I'm asking for opinions cause I might be wrong and it's totally healthy for the game.

Bijeesny1 votes

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Well.. yeah I can see You didn't even read that.

Yes I'm mad I cannot beat that "strategy" because it isn't possible to kill someone immortal.

Did you actually look for ways to counter that strategy or you just lost against it and went "omg i cant beat that"?

And also just ignore thread if You have nothing wise to say. I'm asking for opinions cause I might be wrong and it's totally healthy for the game.

Where exactly are you asking for opinions?

I'll even copy-paste your post 4 every1 to see

Hello there Gamers :D

Funneling is a thing in league since a while and Riot is trying to remove it entirely from the game which is fair, but I feel like they are not doing enough. Let me explain.

Me and the boys were playing some league, as usual 5 premade ranked flex. We were on like 3 games winning spree and then we met 4 man Yi funnel. After 20 minutes we weren't able to leave our fountain. I checked their op.gg's and, well...

https://i.imgur.com/RS6SPr8.jpg

It's not bannable, they are only showing flaws in the game that should be fixed. It is just stupid. They teach You how roles work, how to build a teamcomp with strong frontline and backline, there are tier lists, guides to play certain champs and so on, but there is Master Yi with Taric ult who 3 shots everyone under towers...

And Before You flame me and my friends for just beeing bad at the game, well it's my 3rd season, I was plat 2 peak last season so it's like 10% of the top and that means even if some diamond players or even plat players can counter that, me and other 90% cannot :(

Riot help pls

So now that we have your post laid out, which part is you "asking for opinions"? From what I see it's just you complaining about the strat and saying how riot is not doing enough to remove it, how it shows flaws in the game and how 90% of the players cannot counter it because YOU CANT COUNTER IT (as if you're representing 90% of the playerbase lmao)

And you know how it's healthy for the game? Because those kind of strategies require you to find solutions to it, aka, new picks that can counter that. That's how games evolve. (games with meta-picks)

Picking MF support into malzahar and zyra support is one example of that....would you every think that MF would be picked as a support if these 2 mages werent picked as supports? No she wouldnt. Same thing with funnel. Think about what can be used against it and actually try it. If it was counter-proof, we would see it more often with higher success.

BritishMapper1 votes

Oh man...

You keep saying that I'm mad beacause I can't counter that (You said that 3 times already, bring an argument or something it's getting boring). And I'm sure I'm not the only one who can't beat that "strategy".

https://i.imgur.com/O5At0WF.jpg

And yeah You don't seem to understand how forums like this works so let me explain. I made a thread to state my opinion beacuse I want people to either agree or disagree with me and present their thoughts on this topic.

So in my opinion funneling is unfun to play against while beeing broken. And unlike You, I've done some research and presented it. Statistics clearly shows that funneling strat isn't fair (winrate is still insane) and needs to be nerfed even more. You made a good point about how team needs to work together to make one person strong. Sadly it isn't enough to excuse Yi from having 20-40 kills when funnel is beeing executed.

Bijeesny1 votes

{quoted}

Oh man...

You keep saying that I'm mad beacause I can't counter that (You said that 3 times already, bring an argument or something it's getting boring). And I'm sure I'm not the only one who can't beat that "strategy".

https://i.imgur.com/O5At0WF.jpg

Yea, they cant beat it yet because it's not that old of a strat. And you can even see it in a pic you provided that it's not even played that much. 2.4k matches across all elos and regions aint that big.

And yeah You don't seem to understand how forums like this works so let me explain. I made a thread to state my opinion beacuse I want people to either agree or disagree with me and present their thoughts on this topic.

They way you made your post does not show you're asking for opinions, it just looks like youre ranting about it. Nowhere in your post you said something like "whats your opnion on x and y?"

All youre saying is that it shows flaws in the game (while not even saying what are the flaws), among other things.

here's my honest opinion on the matter: It's not problematic for 2 reasons:

  • It's not played that long and that often, because of which players have no exposure to it which is needed in order to find the ways to beat it. Basically, not enough "trials and errors". For all we know the strat can be countered very heavily but not with the ways we're used to.

  • It's heavily dependant on coordiantion between teammates involved, because of which the strat can be hit and miss in SoloQ.

And unlike You, I've done some research and presented it. Statistics clearly shows that funneling strat isn't fair (winrate is still insane) and needs to be nerfed even more.

Winrate doesnt tell the whole story. Yea, winrate is huge, but as i said, it only has 2.4k matches across all elos and regions. When you break it down, it's actually too rare for people to experience it and the feel of it's pros and cons. So for all we know, the reason for a high winrate could be that it's stomping people who never/rarely experience it and dont know what to do about it.

You made a good point about how team needs to work together to make one person strong. Sadly it isn't enough to excuse Yi from having 20-40 kills when funnel is beeing executed.

Which wouldnt happen if you knew what to do about it. if every1 on your team drafted only around yi you would have a chance because all 4 teammates rely on 1 guy to do well.

Elite4Runner1 votes

Yeah, I faced a funneling comp the other day.

I honestly think the worst part of it was that my team was completely solo queued. It was only a Normal, but 5 strangers trying to respond to a funnel strategy where at least 3 of the enemy team is so obviously coordinated is completely unfair. If we had people on coms we might have stood a chance.

Proƒyt1 votes

i wish my team would funnel me some gold and xp #foreveralone

2gudaiya1 votes

no one cares, gotta nerf akali.

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