@Riot Lets talk about AP Lucian and AP MF

Disclaimer: I am not the best at English so bear with me please :3

I used to love playing AP MF and AP Lucian really often, but recently for both of them they keep getting indirectly nerfed hard by their counterparts (AD) being a little too strong when the ap variants are decent. All I want is to be able to play those 2 off-meta builds as they are some of the most fun i have while playing this game. I would LOVE riot so much if changes to these builds went through as these were some of my favorite things to do in this game.

Let me start with MF. Her q, e, and ult all scale with AP. She has good harass in the early game and is a good DOT mage in teamfights and can even have a surprising amount of burst when fed. Now even though people think that her E is her only good AP damage ability, I max q first as it has such a low cooldown and is a greater amount of poke in lane for less mana. Couple the q with a lichbane and it does a good amount of damage. Her ult is her most lacking ability however, doing low damage and only useful in a clumped up fight to get some damage off on everyone. You could win lane against most midlaners barring and

AP MF was nerfed first during the marksman update, where her w passive (the stacking damage) was removed in favor of Love tap. While I do prefer love tap, it really hurt AP MF as it gave her a little more damage on ult and q. The next time she was nerfed was when her E base damage was lowered because of its usefulness on proccing thunderlords during the thunderlords meta. This really hurt her damage. When that nerf was put in, Riot said that the might buff AP MF to compensate, but those buffs never happened and were forgotten about.

To buff her, I dont think that simply raising the ap scaling on e is ok, that makes her just a One spell bot with E and that isnt something that i think is healthy. I think that scaling increases on Q and R would help her significantly. No changes are needed on base damages or slow amounts because that would alter AD MF. This would make AP MF a viable pick Mid again and would make many people happy I think.

Now for Lucian. AP Lucian is an Artillery Mage with fairly high damage and range. Or at least he was. Ap lucian got many nerfs. But before nerfs lets see how he got majorly buffed. He was strongest after the marksman update because he no longer had to build attack speed items like nashors tooth to get more damage on ult. My good friend Jay (current IGN: Zuiho S5 Diamond) also loved AP lucian before and after the update. Here is a short video made by Jay about AP lucian at its peak. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGLrGacxYXY&channel=soradaoya]

Ap lucian was only recently nerfed hard for his AD counterparts behavior. As I said before he was a long range burst mage before. But Riot nerfed his W and Ult Range, ruining his effective range and putting him at a very great risk of being leaped on by the enemy divers and putting him closer to danger.

The only buffs to AP lucian that i can think of are to either increase his range again (unlikely) or to buff his scalings on W and Ult. Another idea is adding an AP scaling to Q (which would be funny but I don't think it'll happen lol).

I just really want to see these two build viable again as they used to be, they are so much fun to play and surprise people with the amount of damage you can output. Please take this into consideration for the balance team. I feel like it would be an amazing and healthy change to promote different builds (as you did with shyvana and nocturne recently)

Have an amazing day and Rito pls.