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Sylas's current state

Judgement Ring·11/22/2019, 6:49:51 AM·4 votes·1,598 views

We were promised AP bruiser itmes that would help him in the preseason and what we got instead is a very balanced healthy item (Senguine Blade)

He isn't god awful as everyone makes him out to be I grant you, but he isn't in a good spot either

Riot said they are keeping an eye on him yet we have had nothing but 10 less mana on w and 4 bonus mr

I feel like they are afraid of buffing him solely because of his role in the jungle, which is is biased af if you ask me. Ekko is just as flexible as Sylas if not more because he doesn't auto lose against AD champs like Sylas and is one of the best towerdivers in the game LeeSin got buffed twice before worlds even though he was perfectly fine and yet people laughed it off as "ofc they buff him it's Worlds !" insanely overtuned yet no one complains about him, not as much as other champions at least Pantheon 100% banrate at worlds flexible into 4 roles and has a 100% invulnerability that is just so fucking absurd I don't even know what whomever had it's idea was smoking Gragas those of us who survived the earlier seasons no doubt still remember his infamous Q+R combo insta deleting 2+ people, Riot said this was toxic gameplay so they reworked him, which was a remarkable success as he now does ... exactly the same thing ? same as almost everyone above he is flexible into 3 roles (Support,Jg and sololane) and has better utility/late game than Sylas could ever have

What do I propose ? I beg you do NOT over buff him. Giving him back his 20 sec ultimate will be too much, completely reverting his passive will result in people whining about how he missed his abilities yet did so much damage to them

what Sylas needs is his REAL shield back, give it to him BUT nerf the ap ratio from 1.0 to 0.75 or even less AND nerf it's base value by a meager margin. play around the numbers, you could even make the ap ratio as small as 0.4 but in compensation make it scale with resistances. with base/bonus MR>>Armor ratio, depending on how good the ratios and nubmers are you should up the duration to a 2.25 minimum or 3.0 seconds max.

I think why they don't want to do this is why they don't want to give Graves Irelia their respective mr steroids back which is similar but not the same, this will sound biased and maybe it is but Sylas is **supposed ** to be flexible, his whole identity is his Hijack, look at the Sylas vid the devs made, the first thing they talk about is his ultimate and how they wanted to make a champion that can steal other ultimates. that is literally his sole purpose, his kit also has the most counterplay because he doesn't have 20 dashes or can smoke screen you and instantly burst you down (S6 flashbacks)

The notion that his real shield coming back will make him dominate AD match ups is hilarious, Sylas doesn't even dominate AP match ups to begin with and is very predictable with a short ranged kit that can be easily dodged .

**IF AND ONLY IF YOU REFUSE TO GIVE HIM HIS SHIELD BACK **

bring back **some **of the passive damage (as low as 40% as high as 75%) BUT ONLY if he hits a champion with his abilities, so his current passive damage on top of more rewarding damage if you hit your abilities on a champion, this will make him a better duelist and since you are oh so afraid of the 38% winrate jungler will not make his clear less terrible

another good change would be so your passive stacks "fade away" rather than both of them instantly vanishing, so like how Jinx/Jax's passive gradually goes down so too should Sylas's and not immediately lose both of your stacks .

7 Comments

Delightful Mango11/22/2019, 7:51:24 AM1 votes

I'd love the old ult back but it'd be too strong. IDK about shield, i feel like making it like camille's passive would be just amazing, AD only if the closest enemy has more AD than AP or AP only, thus making him really good just by the shield alone. Also allowing enemies to outplay him, nami goes in range to make his shield magic, then zed goes all-in. I think is fine this way. The only problem would be that camille's passive wouldn't be unique anymore . . .

Ore wa LeBlanc11/22/2019, 7:54:20 AM1 votes

My issue with Sylas is that he mostly outtrades anyone, his kit is too overloaded. Especially against AP champs since he gets a magic shield AND heals on top of that. Was playing Fizz against him and just couldn't do ANYTHING. Even when I waited for him to use one of his abilities before trying to trade, he still outtraded me.

I don't play AD midlaners so I don't know for them, but Sylas is already hard to deal with for AP champs. So if you want to buff him in some way, you should consider nerfing something else of his kit. For me he'll be balanced when they remove his stupid healing, he has absolutely no reason to have it. Maybe it helps him in the Jungle, but it's unfair in lanes. He doesn't look like a Jungle champ anyway.