What items would you consider to not be worth building, on any champion?

ƒoes··2 votes·659 views

People have told me that Runaan's Hurricane is a terrible item on every ADC, but I think it's excellent on Twitch, Varus, and Kalista. Others have told me that Thornmail isn't good anymore, nor has it ever been.

Any corrections or additions?

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Ionian2 votes

item 1054 item 3508 item 3512 item 3009 Very weak/useless items imo. I have not purchased any of these in my last 500+ games.

AtheosisX2 votes

item 3009 are neither weak nor useless. item 3512 is situationally useful.

50000000000000001 votes

Zz'Rot is useful when you're a tank but have no waveclear. Also, it helps apply pressure to a lane without actually being there.

Marthian1 votes

Not to mention it doesn't have clear counterplay if you place it right. I recently saw a thresh build it, place it in the bush near blue buff and top was being pushed very hard and minimap doesn't really differentiate between regular minions and void minions.

Only Play Darius2 votes

item 3512 works great to counter a splitpushing Nasus . You should try it out!

RogueWill2 votes

item 3172 Unless you are Udyr

7ha7guy7771 votes

Hecarim ? Boot replacement for any adc at full build?

50000000000000001 votes

If you're ADC with mobility you can sell boots to get Zephyr for tenacity.

Ionian1 votes

Irelia also does well with zephyr.

Lord Dusteon1 votes

I can't think of any item that is NEVER worth building. Maybe Guinsoo's Rageblade and Ohmwrecker, but every other item can be worth building on someone.

Radnar the bold1 votes

item 3060 Ive never seen anyone buy it unless its aram and they are just messing around.

alfavhunter1 votes

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item 3060 Ive never seen anyone buy it unless its aram and they are just messing around.

I've built that as Janna support and ended up taking 2 towers with it while 5 man sieging another lane, you play it right and it's quite useful, also resulted in getting baron before

Only Play Darius1 votes

It's actually pretty commonly picked up in LCS.

Illâoi Evê Siôn1 votes

I wouldn't say that there are items that are never worth building on any champion. Every item has its niche. However, some of those are larger than others.

Ohmwrecker is very situational, because it's main purpose is lost once more towers have been destroyed, and even if not siege/dive situations are infrequent in solo-queue (>>Trust No One). And not a lot of people are impressed by its stats.

Guinsoo's Rageblade is another one of these items. It isn't rushed on anyone because of its duelist nature and need for drawn-out fights. Other items simply offer more faster.
And once those items have been purchased, there is little room left for Guinsoo's, lest one becomes a glasscannon, which is hard to pull off.

**Banner of Command ** is a powerful item, but not everyone knows how to utilize it to its full potential and therefor it as seen as 'bad' in comparison to its alternative, Locket of the Iron Solari (more about this later).

Sword of the Occult isn't very popular even though Mejai's Soulstealer is, because it is much more likely that an Attack Damage champion (Fighters/Assassins/Marksmen) will die in the fray than a ranged ability power champion with a lot of CC and AoE effects (= more assists). And if you ever want a lot of Attack Damage, there are enough items both offense and defense that offer this. Mejai's is more popular because of its low cost in that regards.
Overall it is just a risky item, and 20% Attack Speed isn't really worth it, either.

Elixir of Ruin isn't as popular as the other three elixirs for the same reasons as Ohmwrecker. But also because it offers more unseen power unlike the other three.

Twin Shadows isn't very popular because, although its stats are nice, it's active effect is hard to control and not very effective. Rylai's Crystal Scepter is much more powerful in terms of locking enemies down and offers more damage and survivability through health instead of mobility. And Supports don't buy it because they have enough CC themselves and don't have room in their three items for mediocre damage and 10% wasted CDR.

Zephyr isn't as popular, because ... uh .. can someone take over here? I can't explain why Zephyr isn't popular. It's a weird item.

Anyhow, if Riot maybe released tutorial videos on some of these items, similarly to their Dark Horsed series, it might make them more popular. If Riot themselves instead of some random player explained their strengths and weaknesses and the situations in which they can and why they should be bought, it would make them far less controversial than they currently are.

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Zephyr isn't popular because champs who can use Zephyr isn't popular. Udyr is the only champion who has Zephyr as a core item.

TNHA Baritone1 votes

Banner of Command isn't as powerfuk as you make it seem and it's easily countered.

GroundRuleDouble1 votes

You make some compelling arguments.

ƒoes1 votes

Zephyr probably isn't that popular because not many champions build tenacity, even though it's really good.

GroundRuleDouble1 votes

Runaan's is good on Kalista (about the only champ I'd build it on). Thornmail is core on Rammus.

To respond to other posts here: Banner of Command is good on a support that isn't always in the middle of the fight or if you need to put pressure on a side lane and don't want to go to the lane (especially if they are an AP heavy team). Since the promoted minion is immune to magic damage, they have to send one of their AD champs (usually their ADC) to stop it. Doran's Shield is a good starting item on a tank against a poke heavy champ. ZZ'Rot is useful as a first item on Heimer, and it's pretty good (acceptable) on Soraka. Swift boots are core on Hecarim, and they are pretty good on Garen and Udyr.

Essence Reaver is probably on the useless list, however it is VERY situational on AD casters like Ezreal, but usually by the time you build it, you don't need the mana.

I would agree with Lord Dusteon and say that the only items on this "useless" list are Rageblade and Ohmwrecker.

Trylobyte1 votes

Items I just don't see anymore, don't see people ever build, and think could use some love.

item 3124 - Used to be -the- item for Kayle and Jax. Both of them use other things now. Might be decent on Mordekaiser with the new changes, but again, he probably wants to be building other things.

item 3022 - A very expensive niche item with a crappy build path whose role is generally fulfilled better by red buff. Build Randuin's instead.

item 3141 - Unlike Mejai's, which can be easily stacked on someone like Janna or Lux, the carrier of this item is going to be either priority target #1 (due to being the ADC) or has to get in too close for comfort to use it.

item 1054 - If you're getting more mileage out of this than from the item 1028 item 2003 you could be buying in its place, you're getting harassed way too much.

GroundRuleDouble1 votes

Megai's and Sword are very broken on Bronze games where someone can snowball like crazy.

LoLKiru1 votes

I'd say that Banner of Command's strongest user in terms of taking objectives with it is PROBABLY Malzahar, of course he usually has better things to purchase, but on the off chance he decides to buy it, he can use its active to promote a cannon minion, then just obliterate the turret with his voidling (which the turret won't target until the promoted cannon minion dies; which takes a pretty significant amount of time)

Its not even a bad item for him stat wise, giving him 60 AP, 200 health, 20 MR, and 10% cdr, 3 of those stats Malzahar uses to great effect; one not so much but the MR is still useful.

OT: As others said maybe Ohmwrecker?

Wînter Fox1 votes

item 3075 now

Anomander1 votes

item 3508

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