Ward War

Philae Rox·Jan 23, 2015·24 votes·1,119 views

HI all

in short, the idea is to give supports a bit of Exp. for clearing a ward ! This could be done by a change in the utilitytree . May u ask why ? Because, clearing wards is a important & difficult tactical task :

it takes time

it´s risky

often u have to leave lane and miss lane exp

u have to invest quite a lot of gold to do it

if u dont do it, ur team will be doomed

...

Often i see Supps a bit underleveled( mostly 2 levels ), especially mid and late game. This is because they spent a lot of time between the lanes ,trying to gain vision advantage. Sometimes they get picked of, which makes things even worse for them.

I belive they should get a bit more rewards for their tasks !

cheers

19 Comments

ImaChickIRLJan 23, 201513 votes

this could actually work if they put the mastery very far down in the utility tree.

B1naryB0tJan 24, 20152 votes

Maybe replace/work it into Inspiration?

Cause let's face it, the XP from that mastery really is crap.

Infiny MageJan 23, 20157 votes

I agree with the idea of making a mastery for it. At the least it would give support players the option to take it or ignore it completely.

TeemoJenkinsJan 23, 20154 votes

I like it being in the tree so non-sup's won't take it for the "mah xp"

Fried NoobJan 24, 20152 votes

As long as it was deep in the tree, it'd be good. Otherwise, the exp would be crap to prevent everyone from taking it, defeating the purpose of it.

rescuedJan 23, 20151 votes

Completely agree with this.

Summonerrr 1Jan 23, 20151 votes

Good Idea

JØJłJan 23, 20151 votes

Yeah.. I noticed in most of my games recently... My team will be like level 17-15, and then I'm only level 13-14

AspynnJan 24, 20151 votes

I think this would be a decent change, and it would also help those nice junglers who go about dewarding lanes and their jungles, so both supports and junglers would benefit

ChrisB5Jan 24, 20151 votes

Not to be a minority, but I dislike this idea as it strays from strategy, and here's why...

There's already a utility for exp bonus if a lower level than adc
Placing/destroying wards between waves is a strategic way to go about it, ensuring you don't lose exp
If going about it too well, the support has too much exp, just silly
Would stray away from prior points, which strays away from true strategy, something Riot has been doing way too often with the removal of DFG, constant nerfs, buffing of the one click assassin Zed and other non-mana champs by nerfing those who do use mana, and so on. The game is becoming less strategy more silly behavior, which is causing a lot of players to lose interest. The stacking smite even caused this, yet Riot kept the idea. Makes going to base and helping lanes much less harmful to you overall strategy. This would just add to the 'let's remove critical thinking and reward the new players' outlook of the game. I don't want more of this please ):

SecretAgentHulkJan 24, 20154 votes

Ancient Coin exists, but there's still a mastery for gold gain on minion death.
Fair enough, but "strategic diversity" isn't a bad thing either.
Support never has enough xp. Support should ideally be two or three levels ahead of everyone else. That more ADCs don't realize this and selfishly hog all the minions is why they lose so many games. Silly, silly ADCs. (Seriously, though, support never has enough xp.)
Actually rewards strategy, because warding/counterwarding/killing wards is a strategic thing.

B1naryB0tJan 24, 20151 votes

I agree with what you're saying, but there's one issue here. You seem to be suggesting the support should take CS, that the ADC "hogs all the minions"

There's where I have an issue. As a support/mid main, you should never take CS unless you're proc'ing Relic Shield. The entire point of support role is that "You don't need CS, your partner does. Make sure your partner gets it, feed your partner and take the game"

If you and your ADC fight over CS, you don't stand a chance.

SecretAgentHulkJan 24, 20151 votes

Alas, I am become yet another victim of Poe's Law. I was being funny, and completely agree (except in the edge case that my ADC is a dick or useless. Then it becomes either a trolling game or trying to feed myself harder than the ADC feeds the enemy team. But those aren't the norm.)

ChrisB5Jan 25, 20152 votes

Oh... lol. I didn't know you were joking either. Ah, internet. WHY has NOBODY invented sarcasm tags for forum posts and chat?! Riot, get on this!

B1naryB0tJan 25, 20151 votes

I've always used italics for sarcasm, that's normally enough to make it clear.

ChrisB5Jan 26, 20151 votes

Yea.. sometimes I read italics as emphasis, so it's very possible I would be one of those people lol.

ChrisB5Jan 25, 20152 votes

Yes that's something different, and was added because supports just didn't get any gold, and felt useless. Same for trinkets and the pressure to ward by themselves.
Fair enough, goes both ways I suppose.
How do you figure? You feel cs should be shared between support and ADC? I thrive as support with no gold w/ my gold item and masteries. Why should support be a higher level? I've never heard this before, so curious.
I feel like the game is losing it's competitive edge for rewarding users for doing something they should already be doing on their own is my point I suppose. They tend to be dumbing down the game. Personally, I dislike, for example, Rek tunnels give gold when destroyed. I'm not a rek player btw before anyone rages. Same goes for heimer turrets (I hate you heimer). While we're at it, why don't we give zzrot spawnlings a gold drop (which they don't have btw).

But hey, we all have our own view on the game. I'm sure my outlook varies from several. Take a look at all the downvotes and lack of responses. Shows how dumbed down this community is. I don't bandwagon. You don't either. You're explaining why you disagree, even partially agreed to one of my points with a counter and WHY. Thank you, btw. I love when members would rather respond than bandwagon downvote because I disagree (: I know I'll never agree with everyone, but it's nice to know why others don't agree with /me/.