STEALTH CHAMPIONS HAVE NO COUNTER

Medo Majka·Nov 12, 2015·3 votes·1,147 views

Tell me now RIOT DEVELOPERS. Lets say we play game against Vayne! And we are all full builds SO NO SLOT FOR PINK. HOW ARE WE SUPPOSE TO COUNTER CHAMPS LIKE THAT IF WE CAN'T SEE THEM? TELL ME RIOT PLEAS TELL ME

23 Comments

alasarcherNov 12, 20153 votes

Save 1 slot for pink. Jungler and support dont need to have "full build".

Luc BotNov 12, 20152 votes

so in the late game, we should have 5 final items and 1 pink?

alasarcherNov 12, 20151 votes

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so in the late game, we should have 5 final items and 1 pink?

Ye as support

XinZhao2WinNhaoNov 12, 20151 votes

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Ye as support

id rather get a 2nd ludens

DisulfiramNov 12, 20151 votes

At least 1 in the team should, yes, if you happen to have no other way to deal with that.

RikariNov 12, 20151 votes

so rely on two people to not get caught out and reveal them?

alasarcherNov 12, 20151 votes

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so rely on two people to not get caught out and reveal them?

Well same way u dealt with him before anyway. U would have jungler with sweeper and support usually with pink.

RikariNov 12, 20151 votes

No,i would just upgrade my trinket.

Medo MajkaNov 12, 20151 votes

Or at least they could give us upgrade for sight stone that places vision wards instead of sight wards

alasarcherNov 12, 20151 votes

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Or at least they could give us upgrade for sight stone that places vision wards instead of sight wards

Maybe they will , its just a preseason.

DisulfiramNov 12, 20153 votes

There are champions that can innately reveal stealth ( LeeSin )

There are champions that only need to know Vayne's general whereabouts to hard CC her ( Malphite Amumu Nami Galio etc)

There are champions that can damage her in her stealth (pretty much anyone with skillshots or AoE)

There are those that can disengage after she used her stealth ( Janna )

There are those whose CC can be cast when she is visible and will land regardless, locking her for a chance to burst her before she goes back into stealth ( Taric Nautilus )

Some of these things are more effective, some less.

Take your pick... I'm pretty sure though that if you're trying to jump on Vayne without CCing her first or, even worse, without having an assassin, you're going to have a very bad time.

Medo MajkaNov 12, 20152 votes

Ye that is cool.. But what about Rengar when you see mark above your head that he is near....what then? waste all ults to stop him for killing your ADC and then loose your team-fight because you have no CC?? that is lame mate

DisulfiramNov 12, 20152 votes

You asked about Vayne and I answered with Vayne in mind, not Rengar. :p

Anyway, people that can singlehandedly stop an ulting Rengar from popping the ADC should be Kayle Zilean Janna Azir Kindred Karma , by either being able to disengage from him (if you can guess from where he's coming in) or straight out protecting the ADC.

venomous frostNov 12, 20152 votes

red trinket

Meep ManNov 12, 20151 votes

That got it's true sight for champs removed.

Medo MajkaNov 12, 20151 votes

nope...tested this game....

BansheeNov 12, 20151 votes

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red trinket

if you read the patch notes, red trinket does not give true sight of enemies anymore, not even the upgraded one. The only way to play against them is to buy a pink ward, but sometimes its not even worth it, cause if shaco goes invis and you place a pink down, he can easily walk out of range of it if he was ever in range of the pink ward (caz wall hopping)

LuggNov 12, 20152 votes

item 3364 nuff said.

Medo MajkaNov 13, 20151 votes

It's not true vision....you cant click on champ if u use that on him mate

BoulderoxNov 13, 20151 votes

summoner 32 stealth champs have 0 way to fight back.

On serious note, doesn't the enhanced sweeper allow you to see stealthed units?

Medo MajkaNov 16, 20151 votes

We tested it on custom. You can see them but you can't target them.

Medo MajkaNov 16, 20151 votes

We tested it on custom. You can see them but you can't target them.

Sir VegetaSep 2, 20171 votes

lol I counter stealth champions with Teemo. you can be stealthy all you want, but you cant walk through my shrooms. you still take damage and thus my shrooms will give you away. When im laning, I put them at the door ways into my lane so I can use them as detection.