This game is absolute trash for the last 3 years

WittleBish··91 votes·19,898 views

First and foremost I've played this game since season 1 and I have been challenger twice and my main sitting at d4 so this is not coming from some inexperienced silver pleb who just want to bitch and complain the past 100 games, I conducted a survey, I have counted in 73 of them in which one or more players were hard inting, griefing and doing everything in their power to ruin the experience for the people on their team, both enemy and my own. I created a smurf just for this. Out of 100 games I had 43 people disconnect on my team or the enemy team as well. That's an astonishing rate for what is supposably a balanced competitive game.

I think it's safe to say what loses you games more often than not at this point is the rampant, out of control toxicity and grief mentality. It's the default response at this point and it has been since season 4 it seems like. You disagree with someone in pregame or in game? They start griefing. You lose first blood? Someone starts griefing. You get ganked and have a bad start? Someone starts flaming you and griefing, and it isn't exclusive to just your team, this isn't another "boohoo I lose every game because my team sucks!!" post, I see at least once almost every game someone trolling or griefing, in some form. Winning because the other team has someone who is 1/10 and just trolling isn't fun, and losing when you're in the position is soul crushing and makes you feel like shit.

You can't even say anything to these players without getting punished which is a complete joke. Riot expects you to just mute and be a robot while they run down your lane int feed and make it impossible to carry them. They run up the mid and feed 20 kills that's okay as long as they didn't type they won't even get the ban hammer but if you get annoyed with people wasting your time in 75% of your games and say something then it's o you're toxic etc and your the one who gets a 2 week ban. I was challenger twice on this game now I don't even wanna play it without smacking the creators in the face.

I was banned for two weeks because I called a 0-21 hard griefing jungler in my ranked game a trash can. Was that a terrible thing to say? Yeah, it was, but I was mentally defeated after losing like almost 12 games in a row prior to that to the same fucking thing, getting a player on my team who decides it's easier to troll and grief than to actually use their brain. My point is the fact you literally can't even defend yourself from these people anymore, you say anything to them and you get in trouble, you ask for them to be reported and they flame you and then make it something in after game lobby about how horrible you were to them and that you need to be reported, ect.

Then they go onto troll and int more games and ruin it for even more people, while god forbid, if you said something even remotely not nice to them for their abhorrent behavior, you get chat restricted or banned for 2 weeks. This ban system is a joke and just a way for riot to make more money. They know that low skill players spend on average 100's of dollars more then higher elo players the average player spends 250 dollars on their account. So they punish the skilled players for getting upset with constantly carrying toxic garbage a 1000 games in a row and as soon as they say fk it I'm tired of this shit and flame someone for being the piece of shit they are (Griefing, Hard Inting etc) BAM 2 week ban. This game is cancer and it hasn't been fun since season 3 or 4 imo. At this point there is no fixing this game it will die soon. People claim this game has a 30 million player base I beg to differ. I guarantee you at least 60-70 percent of this games community are smurfs who were banned at some point for getting tired of the way riot caters to disgusting troll pos instead of people who actually put time into become greater. At this point there is no way to fix this game it is disgusting and has the most toxic community I've ever seen out of any game I've ever played and I have over 300 different games at least so that says a lot. Good players can't even solo queue to the top anymore because the chances of having some filth troll on their team are so high they have to duo so that the chances are less. I'm packing up my bag on this game it's absolute trash and it's not even fun anymore just a stressful annoying game at this point.

129 Comments

Mathetes27 votes

Preach Brotha! The community and system is so trash. Like you say, say ANYTHING other than good luck have fun at the beginning and you'll get reported/banned. Basing Solo que rank off ONLY TEAM WIN/LOSS is just horrible and has resulted in an utter disaster because you get bronze players that get carried all the way to diamond. Just watch Meteos and Nemesis try to guess rank, you can't, it's all the same garbage whether it's silver or diamond. I seriously think riot has left ranked que in such disarray so that you get frustrated, create new accounts, and PAY MONEY to get champs/xp bonuses so they can keep making money.

I gave up years ago caring about this game, and for that reason I have refused to give riot a single cent from my pocket. My advice is just to stop caring, trolls win- and you know what they say- if you can't beat em' join em. just trolololololololol, expect a clown fiesta every match, and play other games. Xbox PC game pass is on sale for $1 first month and $5/month. Definitely worth it.

WittleBish11 votes

Thanks for the support man I just don't get it I use to be able to massively carry but these days it's utterly impossible, it's a coin flip almost every single game with trolls so you are right I'm done caring I'm gonna hop on actually fun games not games that charge you 30 dollars for 2 d paper graphic skins this games a joke.

Puresmoke6 votes

I feel you guys 100%.. nothing feels deserved anymore. Or you win bcause someone on your team went 10/0 because of a lucky kill early game or you lose because someone in the enemy team is 10/0 because of the same reason. It's hard to say for me but the game just doesn't bring me joy anymore. 1 Misstake and you insta lose game get permacamped by 4 man.

Blossom of Time3 votes

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I feel you guys 100%.. nothing feels deserved anymore. Or you win bcause someone on your team went 10/0 because of a lucky kill early game or you lose because someone in the enemy team is 10/0 because of the same reason. It's hard to say for me but the game just doesn't bring me joy anymore. 1 Misstake and you insta lose game get permacamped by 4 man.

This is so true, I don't feel accomplished when winning games anymore, you either hard stomp or get hard stomped. It has felt so awful to play this season, my motivation for playing league is constantly dwindling. The only thing keeping me returning are the skins and summoner icons because I'm a collector. You have to rely too heavily on your team in order to get anything done and although it's a "team game" it makes it impossible for someone mechanically great at the game to rise in ranks just because of maybe one or two people in your match trolling or inting it down the lane.

Freaktory2 votes

Yeah that whole "team game" bullshit doesnt fly with me anymore. I find it hillarious that people will only use "its a team game, you have to play for the team" Only when YOU arent doing something THEY want. Like they chase kills, you push towers. and apparently You arent being a team player because you ARENT CHASING KILLS LIKE THEM. Therefore you are being selfish and trolling by trying to actuallty take down towers. That is there logic

Escalan3 votes

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Preach Brotha! The community and system is so trash. Like you say, say ANYTHING other than good luck have fun at the beginning and you'll get reported/banned. Basing Solo que rank off ONLY TEAM WIN/LOSS is just horrible and has resulted in an utter disaster because you get bronze players that get carried all the way to diamond. Just watch Meteos and Nemesis try to guess rank, you can't, it's all the same garbage whether it's silver or diamond. I seriously think riot has left ranked que in such disarray so that you get frustrated, create new accounts, and PAY MONEY to get champs/xp bonuses so they can keep making money.

I gave up years ago caring about this game, and for that reason I have refused to give riot a single cent from my pocket. My advice is just to stop caring, trolls win- and you know what they say- if you can't beat em' join em. just trolololololololol, expect a clown fiesta every match, and play other games. Xbox PC game pass is on sale for $1 first month and $5/month. Definitely worth it.

True. I don't understand how 4 season silver players are getting to plat this one. I can't imagine how it is in high elo.

Pandemic Punch16 votes

Meta has been roughly the same for the last 3 years with tanks being nearly irrelevant. I see a correlation

Nea10413 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pandemic Punch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g7huJUtw,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-11T19:38:14.042+0000)

Meta has been roughly the same for the last 3 years with tanks being nearly irrelevant. I see a correlation

Yes, and overall defenses as well. Overwhelming CoD style stuff in a supposed "strategic" game, what a company :D

Freaktory2 votes

EXACTLY. I loved this game when it started out in season 3 because there was SO MUCH STRATEGY. The game relied on who was where? who made that awesom combo at just the right moment..and what they built. I loved it because it had the strategy of chess. Then they started turning it into just another call of duty kda DICK MEASURING CONTEST. Who has more kills Whos KDA is prettier. who is "solo carrying" the "trash team"

Yeah who cares about playing the objectives now as long as you can go double digit kills and tell the rest of your "noob" team how complete and utter worthless garbage they are compared to the god of LoL that is YOU (btw I am using "you" in a general sense, not directed at you personally)

Players are only concerned with how much "better than you" they look. They will actively sabotage thier teammates, stab thier teams in the back to get the "solo carry" bragging rights. But the moment the match is lost because they are so busy running after kills and patting themselves on the back they didnt see the enemy team kicking at our nexus? Well obviously its the "noob team"s fault for not having as many kills at them. They ignore the fact they dont even touch the enemy towers.

any strategy is long gone. If i can convince people to leave and drop this game like the sinking trashfire it is, I pray for Riot's Lost revenue. I will not give them any of my money, I will only take what I can from them. And when the game goes under soon, as I predicted (I was laughed because i pretty much predicted season 9 to be the last good season before the shit hits the fan) I will laugh.

They decided trying to appease the "esports pro" scene was more important than keeping a GOOD game. Not much of an Esport game if no one wants to stick around the trashfire the game has become.

WittleBish3 votes

I don't play tanks its extremely hard to carry with those champs because you are relying on teammates to back you up and until at least plat elo I feel it's not a good way to carry.

Toxic Teeto13 votes

Imagine unironically thinking the game is amazing. The same people think The Last Jedi is the best Star Wars movie ever made, or that GoT season 8 was excellent.

LUL.

Rαy11 votes

True, but it started really going downhill with Runes Reforged, in my opinion.

Ever since the introduction of the new runes and their underwhelming resistances + overwhelming offensive options, upfront burst damage has become so high the game turned into a boring oneshot fiesta.

Anaphiel6 votes

The consequences of change for changes sake are always far reaching.

I dont think riot intended to break the feel of their incredibly successful game, and drop time to kill so much punishingly lower, but it happened.

Longer, slower fights allow more chances for expression of skill and outplay on both sides. They also feel more satisfying, as the result is earned over a longer period. That delicate balance was part of the magic of league.

Fights right now happen so fast you dont feel like you really did anything, fate dictated that your team would win/lose before the game even started.

It isnt who plays best that decides a game anymore. Its which team has that one member that has a bad game and permafeeds the enemy too fast to recover from. This leaves both teams unsatisfied, even the winners.

True Garen3 votes

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True, but it started really going downhill with Runes Reforged, in my opinion.

Ever since the introduction of the new runes and their underwhelming resistances + overwhelming offensive options, upfront burst damage has become so high the game turned into a boring oneshot fiesta.

Runes Reforged was a mistake.

Tr4shB4NSYST3M5 votes

Season 7 wasnt that bad.

WittleBish2 votes

meh

Naalith5 votes

Hard disagree. Maybe the first few months weren't so bad but once Ardent meta started and Riot absolutely refused to balance the game for like 6 months because "durrrr Worlds is like 8 patches away we can't do nuffin." Basically every single friend I had that played since season 1-2 quit right around Worlds 2017 for that reason, and those who eventually came back still only play a couple games a month.

True Garen2 votes

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Hard disagree. Maybe the first few months weren't so bad but once Ardent meta started and Riot absolutely refused to balance the game for like 6 months because "durrrr Worlds is like 8 patches away we can't do nuffin." Basically every single friend I had that played since season 1-2 quit right around Worlds 2017 for that reason, and those who eventually came back still only play a couple games a month.

He means, by comparison with the systemwide cataclysm that defined Season 8 from the start until now. By the end of Season 7, League was relatively balanced.

OHminus3 votes

the last half of season 7 was ardent meta, in which only the adc got to have any fun and laners/supports even jungle had to play enchanters. Top occasionally got to play carries that didn't really require too many resources like Rumble/GP. That was an awful meta and was part of the reason that adcs got gutted the next season - everyone said it was deserved after adcs being the star for an entire season

AquariusGine5 votes

I wish Riot would get it together and do something about the rampant inting and toxic behaviour.

Düff McWhalen6 votes

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I wish Riot would get it together and do something about the rampant inting and toxic behaviour.

They did! They worked super hard focus grouping and allocating resources to bring you THIS;

https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Tilt_Type

TOTALLY fixed the issues!

NoobDefault6 votes

[{quoted}](name=Düff McWhalen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g7huJUtw,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2019-09-12T17:19:13.051+0000)

They did! They worked super hard focus grouping and allocating resources to bring you THIS;

https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Tilt_Type

TOTALLY fixed the issues!

It's so insulting it actually disgusts me to my very core.

It's nowhere near tilt when more than half the games played are a hostage situation between the people who want to play and the putrid shitlords who want to grief.

Düff McWhalen3 votes

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It's so insulting it actually disgusts me to my very core.

It's nowhere near tilt when more than half the games played are a hostage situation between the people who want to play and the putrid shitlords who want to grief.

Yup. Just remember the small indie company with one game and thus one revenue stream (granted the stream branches off into other things but LoL is their only game), and they decided to allocate their skin, emote, lootbox sales,etc..... to THAT.

Not setting any goals to make matchmaking or game balance better and then getting things up on PBE for wide player testing and feedback, no! They instead used that money for "The Tilt Types" test. Bravo Riot. Bravo.

LordVrane5 votes

Do you remember a decade ago, when Beta Tester was actually a job title, which granted a check every month?

5050BS5 votes

Its really been the last 4-5 years.

S5 was its peek. You know before the change over.

Oh and Riot bans for things that the player can control (you can mute anyone, you can grow some skin) but Riot does not ban for things that ACTUALLY influence the game (inting, greifing, trolling, afking) and you have no control over.

NoobDefault4 votes

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First and foremost I've played this game since season 1 and I have been challenger twice and my main sitting at d4 so this is not coming from some inexperienced silver pleb who just want to bitch and complain the past 100 games, I conducted a survey, I have counted in 73 of them in which one or more players were hard inting, griefing and doing everything in their power to ruin the experience for the people on their team, both enemy and my own. I created a smurf just for this. Out of 100 games I had 43 people disconnect on my team or the enemy team as well. That's an astonishing rate for what is supposably a balanced competitive game.

I think it's safe to say what loses you games more often than not at this point is the rampant, out of control toxicity and grief mentality. It's the default response at this point and it has been since season 4 it seems like. You disagree with someone in pregame or in game? They start griefing. You lose first blood? Someone starts griefing. You get ganked and have a bad start? Someone starts flaming you and griefing, and it isn't exclusive to just your team, this isn't another "boohoo I lose every game because my team sucks!!" post, I see at least once almost every game someone trolling or griefing, in some form. Winning because the other team has someone who is 1/10 and just trolling isn't fun, and losing when you're in the position is soul crushing and makes you feel like shit.

You can't even say anything to these players without getting punished which is a complete joke. Riot expects you to just mute and be a robot while they run down your lane int feed and make it impossible to carry them. They run up the mid and feed 20 kills that's okay as long as they didn't type they won't even get the ban hammer but if you get annoyed with people wasting your time in 75% of your games and say something then it's o you're toxic etc and your the one who gets a 2 week ban. I was challenger twice on this game now I don't even wanna play it without smacking the creators in the face.

I was banned for two weeks because I called a 0-21 hard griefing jungler in my ranked game a trash can. Was that a terrible thing to say? Yeah, it was, but I was mentally defeated after losing like almost 12 games in a row prior to that to the same fucking thing, getting a player on my team who decides it's easier to troll and grief than to actually use their brain. My point is the fact you literally can't even defend yourself from these people anymore, you say anything to them and you get in trouble, you ask for them to be reported and they flame you and then make it something in after game lobby about how horrible you were to them and that you need to be reported, ect.

Then they go onto troll and int more games and ruin it for even more people, while god forbid, if you said something even remotely not nice to them for their abhorrent behavior, you get chat restricted or banned for 2 weeks. This ban system is a joke and just a way for riot to make more money. They know that low skill players spend on average 100's of dollars more then higher elo players the average player spends 250 dollars on their account. So they punish the skilled players for getting upset with constantly carrying toxic garbage a 1000 games in a row and as soon as they say fk it I'm tired of this shit and flame someone for being the piece of shit they are (Griefing, Hard Inting etc) BAM 2 week ban. This game is cancer and it hasn't been fun since season 3 or 4 imo. At this point there is no fixing this game it will die soon. People claim this game has a 30 million player base I beg to differ. I guarantee you at least 60-70 percent of this games community are smurfs who were banned at some point for getting tired of the way riot caters to disgusting troll pos instead of people who actually put time into become greater. At this point there is no way to fix this game it is disgusting and has the most toxic community I've ever seen out of any game I've ever played and I have over 300 different games at least so that says a lot. Good players can't even solo queue to the top anymore because the chances of having some filth troll on their team are so high they have to duo so that the chances are less. I'm packing up my bag on this game it's absolute trash and it's not even fun anymore just a stressful annoying game at this point.

This. So much this. 100% the reason I hardly ever play anymore! I would rather play another game than waste 30min (approx) being held hostage by a griefer. It happens so often aswell. It's just one gigantic joke.

Escalan4 votes

Well said. I think a lot of people will agree with your points. I don't have any motivation to play anymore too. Maybe I will quit soon.

Freaktory2 votes

I would say move to SMITE. Alot of people give it greif but all in all it actually IS fun (reminds me i gotta finish matches for my battle pass) plus Hi-Rez has a new game in the works "Rogue Company"

Riot is basically a 1-trick pony throwing skins at everything. But Hi-rez has quite a few good games. Paladins Smite Realm Royale coming soon Rogue Company (which looks interesting) They are constantly giving out free skins and stuff. I will not waste my money on Riot anymore. Happy to give it to Hi-rez, feed the competition :)

loligotboosted4 votes

good fuck this game

CHStinkmeaner2 votes

Holy moly, I thought I was the only one that though this for the longest time!!!! Dude I read your entire post out loud and it literally sounded like everything that I say about this game nowadays to my friends. I've always been afraid to post something like this on reddit or this forum because I know all the fanboys would just jump on Riot's dickk and defend it because they love playing edgy anime champs. But omg you posted this and got 70+ upvotes??? This is revolutionary. This one single big ass post is actually the second comming of jesus christ himself. I am so happy that you spilled the truth, nothing BUT the truth on here and you are not alone, don't let the riot fanboys get to you. You are out here doing God's honest work. We need more people like you so that hopefully one day riot stops listening to their fanboys (the ones that just let trolls ruin the game and don't report because "they just want to have fun and don't care about trolls") and starts listening to the greater part of their community, like you. The ones that have stuck with them for YEARS instead of the ones that only started playing league this year because riot has released anime-themed youtube adds. My god you are the second comming of Jesus Christ himself.

True Garen2 votes

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https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD/yWLLysEB-if-league-is-dying-where-are-all-these-players-going

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD/kgdUigY6-lol-is-dying

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/EGjBsGi7-is-league-dying

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/GaaO62P5-im-so-happy-league-is-dying

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/aMrKswa7-league-is-dying

https://blogoflegends.com/2019/01/07/league-legends-dying-game/

Yeah it seems like a joke. Sadly, it's true and they're serious, every single time. Every Season manages to outdo all previous, beyond what could have been imagined.

There is broad general consensus, that goes far beyond the readership of these forums, that Season 8 was the Worst Season Ever... except that this current one has logically extended it to surpass that...

mack91121 votes

[{quoted}](name=True Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g7huJUtw,comment-id=00110000,timestamp=2019-09-14T03:17:20.360+0000)

Yeah it seems like a joke. Sadly, it's true and they're serious, every single time. Every Season manages to outdo all previous, beyond what could have been imagined.

There is broad general consensus, that goes far beyond the readership of these forums, that Season 8 was the Worst Season Ever... except that this current one has logically extended it to surpass that...

Dude people will always hate what is infront of them and be nostalgic of what the past had be or better or worst that is literally human psychology.

Look at the last link league is still the most played game 10 years into its existence. It’s definitely doing things right.

True Garen2 votes

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Dude people will always hate what is infront of them and be nostalgic of what the past had be or better or worst that is literally human psychology.

Look at the last link league is still the most played game 10 years into its existence. It’s definitely doing things right.

The other side is... why would you expect it to last forever, even in the healthiest scenario? Media has a lifespan.

Riot is doing things that have never been done before. There is no way that anybody could possibly say "DEFINITELY doing things right". THEY don't even claim to be infallible.

Mistakes have been made.

mack91121 votes

[{quoted}](name=True Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g7huJUtw,comment-id=0011000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T16:21:43.412+0000)

The other side is... why would you expect it to last forever, even in the healthiest scenario? Media has a lifespan.

Riot is doing things that have never been done before. There is no way that anybody could possibly say "DEFINITELY doing things right". THEY don't even claim to be infallible.

Mistakes have been made.

The game is literally too big to die simply because of the money the esports scene has behind it.

True Garen1 votes

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The game is literally too big to die simply because of the money the esports scene has behind it.

There's a lot of relative measurements. The world that we live in, has a lot of people. Logically, no matter how bad the game ever got, there would be large numbers playing it. Those numbers might even grow. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's thriving.

mack91121 votes

[{quoted}](name=True Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g7huJUtw,comment-id=001100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T19:01:59.119+0000)

There's a lot of relative measurements. The world that we live in, has a lot of people. Logically, no matter how bad the game ever got, there would be large numbers playing it. Those numbers might even grow. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's thriving.

Well I mean in its current form league legends is thriving from a financial and popularity point of view.

True Garen1 votes

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Well I mean in its current form league legends is thriving from a financial and popularity point of view.

That's also relative.

Another game company, would have been tickled pink about the success of their Twisted Treeline game, and how many people were playing it...

mack91121 votes

[{quoted}](name=True Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g7huJUtw,comment-id=00110000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T19:08:00.965+0000)

That's also relative.

Another game company, would have been tickled pink about the success of their Twisted Treeline game, and how many people were playing it...

The company has a new game that requires server space.

Servers allocated for twisted treeline are almost always empty.

If you notice tft stability improved with TTL removal

True Garen1 votes

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The company has a new game that requires server space.

Servers allocated for twisted treeline are almost always empty.

If you notice tft stability improved with TTL removal

3v3 hasn't been removed. Yet.

In any event, you're not addressing my point.

mack91121 votes

[{quoted}](name=True Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g7huJUtw,comment-id=0011000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-15T00:59:08.736+0000)

3v3 hasn't been removed. Yet.

In any event, you're not addressing my point.

This is my point server allocation has already begun.

If literally almost nobody plays a game mode why invest time in it ?

If people wanted it they would have made it happen.

The game mode existed for endless years and it just isn’t fun riot could invest a million more dollars and it still would not be fun.

True Garen1 votes

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This is my point server allocation has already begun.

If literally almost nobody plays a game mode why invest time in it ?

If people wanted it they would have made it happen.

The game mode existed for endless years and it just isn’t fun riot could invest a million more dollars and it still would not be fun.

But we weren't discussing 3v3. (They actually officially said they were finally removing it because of TFT?)

I was using it as an example of what would be considered growth and healthy to one company, may actually represent stagnation or loss to another. Just because there is a simple numeric increase does not mean that things are as they should be.

You seem to be saying that actually, Riot recognizes that the greatest profit relies on eSports, so, correctly, they focus on that, even though amateur play may suffer. (So, yeah, the company will be healthy. And as long as pros are popular and playing, then there will always be lots of people playing.)

mack91121 votes

[{quoted}](name=True Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g7huJUtw,comment-id=001100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-15T01:29:20.101+0000)

But we weren't discussing 3v3. (They actually officially said they were finally removing it because of TFT?)

I was using it as an example of what would be considered growth and healthy to one company, may actually represent stagnation or loss to another. Just because there is a simple numeric increase does not mean that things are as they should be.

You seem to be saying that actually, Riot recognizes that the greatest profit relies on eSports, so, correctly, they focus on that, even though amateur play may suffer. (So, yeah, the company will be healthy. And as long as pros are popular and playing, then there will always be lots of people playing.)

This has nothing to die with pro people’s it is simple logistics. Why invest time in one thing that is never played when you can use those recourses to improve a highly popular other thing ?

mack91121 votes

[{quoted}](name=True Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g7huJUtw,comment-id=00110000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000005,timestamp=2019-09-18T16:22:07.005+0000)

Not sure that you can compare security for a video game with security for... Intel. I really hope that you can't.

From an engineers ponts of view that does not matter.

True Garen1 votes

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This is my point server allocation has already begun.

If literally almost nobody plays a game mode why invest time in it ?

If people wanted it they would have made it happen.

The game mode existed for endless years and it just isn’t fun riot could invest a million more dollars and it still would not be fun.

%1 of 100 million people is still a lot of people. As I said, a smaller company would find it profitable to operate 3v3 ALONE. (YOUR rationale makes a lot more sense, although, they could still simple have increased their resources. I'm sure that they considered it.)

mack91121 votes

[{quoted}](name=True Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g7huJUtw,comment-id=001100000000000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-09-15T01:33:39.999+0000)

%1 of 100 million people is still a lot of people. As I said, a smaller company would find it profitable to operate 3v3 ALONE. (YOUR rationale makes a lot more sense, although, they could still simple have increased their resources. I'm sure that they considered it.)

If you can predict a 1% in tt traffic or a 5% tft traffic you will go for the latter.

Like nobody played tt i tried even doing ranked it literally had so many bots.

mack91121 votes

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I'm incredulous. The mode also has separate MMR for ranked and normal queues, and I leave bots behind after playing about a dozen matches from fresh (zero) MMR.

So Did you earn enough mmr in 3v3 to get the orianna chroma?

True Garen1 votes

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So Did you earn enough mmr in 3v3 to get the orianna chroma?

I don't play 3v3 ranked. And I don't see bots in my 3v3 norms.

True Garen1 votes

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Not for a second does that number make any sense to me.

Please show me the data.

See this graph?

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/dgAtEGFg-training-bots?comment=000100000000

If there's 100,000,000 players every month, then %3 of that is 3 million.

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If you look at the match history of people complaining of ttl most haven’t even touched it.

If you don’t believe me that he game quality is poor how about me and you duo 3v3 and let’s see how the games go ?

laugh You just pick whatever is most convenient... ("An Inconvenient Truth")

I'll agree with you about that... most people complaining about ttl have probably never even tried it.

Obviously, there were plenty of people playing it all these years, even if it was just a sliver of the total player base, it was more than worth to keep the game up; do you really think that Riot would have kept a game that NOBODY played for all these years?

It was plenty of people. You'll notice that graph includes Nexus Blitz. When Nexus Blitz is not available, then 3v3 has a slightly higher playership. (I mean, all of the game modes have slightly higher shares. Possibly 3v3 benefits more than others, since both modes offer a shorter, faster-paced game.)

Again, I don't even know why you keep harping on 3v3. This thread wasn't even ABOUT 3v3.

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