ADC are useless ... once again

Hi im Ruler·Aug 12, 2019·10 votes·3,099 views

it's annoyin to go back to the old days ... as an adc main i can't feel my impact at all on the game .. just rarely nd ofc it makes sense when ur lane depends on ur sup nd jungler ... nd u can't do shiit solo till 25min+ ND STILL can get os by any fed champion in any stage of the game even if u're 20/0 ... riot forgot that getting one shot is the thing that makes player toxic while making new champ like pyke zoe nd now qiana ... we're the only lane that depends on the whole team to do something we want to be balanced early nd we don't wana be super strong late cuz this season games it's around 25min max i rarely reaach full build as an adc ... so the only thing we got is late game nd still we r around the risk of getting os riot just fix this ffs

17 Comments

PzyXoAug 12, 20191 votes

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Hi im RulerAug 12, 20191 votes

i SAID THERE IS NO COUNTER PLAY TO THE WAY WE GETTING ONE SHOT ... nd also i said we only feel useful after 25+min at least before our team hits 20min ... just play a match or 2 as adc then tell me wsup mate :) Also yes i sometimes can't do shiit to counter play assassination as 20/0 ... i had this oone game when i was 17/3 nd 5/1 kha'zin kept no oneshoting me with his ult Just AUTO PASSIVE ATTACK ND Q all it takes cuz we adc don't have armor nor health in our items only crit nd ad nd attack speed but for other like mages bruissers nd assassins they have option ... they have health armor / magic resist shields passives and also cheaper than our items so yea bro adc is suffering rn

PzyXoAug 13, 20191 votes

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i SAID THERE IS NO COUNTER PLAY TO THE WAY WE GETTING ONE SHOT ... nd also i said we only feel useful after 25+min at least before our team hits 20min ... just play a match or 2 as adc then tell me wsup mate :) Also yes i sometimes can't do shiit to counter play assassination as 20/0 ... i had this oone game when i was 17/3 nd 5/1 kha'zin kept no oneshoting me with his ult Just AUTO PASSIVE ATTACK ND Q all it takes cuz we adc don't have armor nor health in our items only crit nd ad nd attack speed but for other like mages bruissers nd assassins they have option ... they have health armor / magic resist shields passives and also cheaper than our items so yea bro adc is suffering rn

Yeah, same as the tanks when you oneshot them. Assassins can act before you do something but tanks can't. I played adc so much :) and its a broken role. They just oneshot everything even before the 25min you're talking about, specially Cait/Kai'Sa/Twitch without talking about the ones which are more powerful after 25min. Yeah and sometimes you're so bad that you're 20/0 and get killed by an assassin, hell if i'm 20/0 as an adc I would go 1v5.

i had this oone game when i was 17/3 nd 5/1 kha'zin kept no oneshoting me with his ult Just AUTO PASSIVE ATTACK ND Q all it takes

Liar, I'm sure you're just lying. 5/1 Kha'Zix can do so much dmg but can't oneshot your 17/3 ass. I mained all assassins and one of my fav ones is khazix and he can't do that. Except if you're running it down.

we adc don't have armor nor health in our items only crit nd ad nd attack speed

Yeah, remember when caitlyn used to build 3 crit items and the rest is just tanky ? She was OP asf that she can just sit there and attack everything. And why you need hp when you can shit on everything ? Your champs are literally so fucking OP that you're literally ranged assassins. Remember the login screen of Kayn assassinating Ashe ? Now its Ashe assassinating Kayn. Bullshit, you don't even know how to defend yourself.

mages bruissers nd assassins they have option

I agree mages are OP. But for the 3rd time you're the role which is fucking assassins's job. You're oneshoting everything. Assassins now forgot how to build damage and all they hope for is a change to kill the adc which got GA/Iceborn Gauntlet and still do more damage than them.

Bruisers are balanced. But mages shit on them...

Hi im RulerAug 15, 20191 votes

Just go watch adc stream like gosu or sneaky or something ... u guys can do stuff with nycomp but if someone picks the wrong sup adc is screwed

PzyXoAug 15, 20191 votes

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Just go watch adc stream like gosu or sneaky or something ... u guys can do stuff with nycomp but if someone picks the wrong sup adc is screwed

Nah, adc is strong asf. The only role that can counter mages these days.

Austin CovelloAug 29, 20191 votes

Obvious troll is obvious.

PandaNator43Aug 12, 20191 votes

All the roles are reliant on their teammates to be successful. It can be especially frustrating for ADC's when they don't get the peel they need, that turns into a grey screen pretty fast.

Tanks can initiate and not have their team follow up. Spilt pushers might have teammates that refuse to pressure the map. Assassins need their teammates to create openings for them.

But staring at a grey screen can be more frustrating than any of those.

But again, as hyper-carries, ADCs have some of the highest high-points too.

VentiraAug 12, 20192 votes

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All the roles are reliant on their teammates to be successful. It can be especially frustrating for ADC's when they don't get the peel they need, that turns into a grey screen pretty fast.

Tanks can initiate and not have their team follow up. Spilt pushers might have teammates that refuse to pressure the map. Assassins need their teammates to create openings for them.

But staring at a grey screen can be more frustrating than any of those.

But again, as hyper-carries, ADCs have some of the highest high-points too.

Problem is that with how support is being run these days (hyper damage mages, with ignite) tank supports have no place in this meta. I've been playing alot of Braum lately, and every match I've had has been fucking ridiculous Full-AP supports. Janna with deathcaps, Ludens and Liandry's, Soraka with the same. It's getting ridiculous.

PandaNator43Aug 12, 20191 votes

yeah it looks like most tank supports are in the pooper right now. I don't mind mage supports. Sona is cancer tho.

VentiraAug 12, 20191 votes

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yeah it looks like most tank supports are in the pooper right now. I don't mind mage supports. Sona is cancer tho.

I despise full-mage supports (Lux, Brand, Vel'Koz), the Resolve runes aren't good enough to mitigate the insane early damage every "mage" has these days, even if I start with an extra 16 MR from the "pick your stats" bit.

ADC's are weak because Full-Mage supports are taking all the kills, as one can see by the fact in my last SR match, the enemy Janna had the second highest kills on the team.

PandaNator43Aug 12, 20191 votes

(Lux, Brand, Vel'Koz)

Sustain should be the answer to poke, not necessarily tanks.

Buckeye2002Aug 15, 20191 votes

Mage supports aren't bad, if you have hard engage......people need to stop playing feeding supports, sona, soraka, and their ilk, they suck, just stop playing that crap.

VentiraAug 16, 20191 votes

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Mage supports aren't bad, if you have hard engage......people need to stop playing feeding supports, sona, soraka, and their ilk, they suck, just stop playing that crap.

You seem to mistake me for saying mage supports are bad. They're not. They're not even supports. They're mages, and that is why I despise them, because unlike ACTUAL supports, they have the damage numbers to make the lane utterly obnoxious.

Also, Soraka is stronk AF right now wot you on about. I've won all my ranked games with her thus far. All three of them, and only died like, 4 times between all 3.

Buckeye2002Aug 29, 20191 votes

Soraka is terrible, in silver, all they do is feed...only idiot adcs that dont buy executioners have issues with a soraka. Sona, Soraka are almost an autoloss...Jannas can be great or horrible.

Austin CovelloAug 29, 20191 votes

If you ask me, Riot needs to implement either or both of these solutions:

Deny Full Mage/AP items to supports (or at the very least just enchanter supports) the same way they now deny support items to junglers. (Note: You can still buy these items on supports on ARAM, since there's no support.)
Fix the support role so that supports can not get kills. If there's a group kill where the support would have gotten it, it defaults to the second person (in laning phase, usually the ADC.) If it's a solo kill, automatically defaults to the ADC. This includes kill credit, XP, and Gold. Same with farm. Then they can kill the lane all they want, and the ADC still gets fed.

The KombinatorAug 15, 20191 votes

Mostly, because the mage support meta. If you have a skilled enchanter, then you can't be oneshot. Also there are ADCs, that can work without support above 6, or sometimes even before.

Ezreal is the best example. Get iceborn+tear, and he outrange, and outmove everything, and everyone. Not even need to use basic attacks to do damage. Though he still can, if notice, that enemy ignores him.

Another one is Vayne. Just don't go fronline, and then with the constant sneaking she can ruin pretty much any team.

Draven with the right build can out lifesteal most enemies on his own.