Can Ignite be Nerfed Already

KODAK BLÄCK··80 votes·18,601 views

Since there is already so much damage in the game, why is Ignite tuned to be so strong? It literally didn't need buffs in the first place.....

Is anything going to be done about the overall amount of damage in the game? Maybe give every champion increased innate defensive stats over time or tune down these stupid runes?

99 Comments

Bisaknosp48 votes

i'm honestly surprised that there arent more people complaining about ignite

TheCodeisCupCake8 votes

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i'm honestly surprised that there arent more people complaining about ignite

I complained about it a while ago and made a thread, 37 down votes....

koshkyra2 votes

I made a thread when it was getting buffed and it got 14 downvotes within an hour. It was legit the exact same thread (i even mentioned the innate defensive stats.)

Z3Sleeper7 votes

I'm surprised Ignite got straight damage buffed instead of implementing the cool new Aatrox Mutilator effect over Grievous Wounds.

Woulda made Ignite way better without just tacking on damage.

Malak30 votes

Ignite does 205 true damage at lvl 6.

Roughly 25% of a champion's full hp. + reveals, + reduced healing

If that isn't bullshit I don't know what is.

Nerf ignite damage significantly a lower levels, reduce cooldown significantly

koshkyra3 votes

summoner 14 Damage: 80-505 over 5 seconds >>> 55-480 over 5 seconds Cooldown: 210 seconds >>> 180 seconds

?

BLIGHTBRINGER19 votes

500+ free True Damage ftw

But in all seriousness because of Ignite other Summoner Spells barely get picked up anymore. I barely ever see anyone take Exhaust, Barrier, Ghost or Cleanse. These Summoners are now just there as an optional Summoner Spell if you need it against specific matchups, and it's never picked for the sake of being a good Summoner Spell in general because...

Ignite is damage and with damage you win the lane now pretty much.

In my honest opinion just nerf Ignite and buff other unpopular Summoner Spells. Legit tired of this Summoner Spell, everyone is taking it. Top laners (not as often), Mid laners, even some Junglers, and pretty much all Supports.

BEK Makadur3 votes

IMO just buff other Summs. Ignite only gives dueling power and if you don´t kill with it, it huerts if the enemy top can tpp for example.

Sp33d Zer06 votes

Let's not just keep buffing things. Let's actually bring things into line.

BEK Makadur1 votes

defensive summs got nerfed. But tbh it is the same stuff for seasons,some want tank meta, some assasins, some mages, some adc etc. the crying is always pretty much the same.

HaIlMonitor2 votes

Did you like the "Throw another rock" meta?

Akali is SO HOT10 votes

Rarely anyone took ignite over exhaust bot lane before the buffs. Now it's worth taking it over exhaust much more often. The only other champs who took ignite were Assassins while the rest always took defensive summoners. You saw maybe 2 or 3 people with ignite MAX.

2Charmnot2Charm1 votes

People been taking ignite after the nerf to exhaust in bot lane.

My Waifu Vanilla1 votes

Which happened around the same time that ignite got buffed....notice the words "took" and "before the buffs". The point still stands that up until a few months ago literally the only people that took ignite for the year and a half before that were champions that popped up when you typed assassin in the search function. Why take ignite when double tp was even better than it is now? Or when heal still made up for most of the damage ignite would have done AND guaranteed you won a 2v2 in mid lane?

2Charmnot2Charm1 votes

Which happened** AROUND THE SAME TIME** that ignite got buffed

https://i.imgur.com/sbsoXPRl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hCZAZAhl.jpg

Are you sure about that?

Anyways forget what i said since I read akali's message late at night and thought we were talking about supports, in which case I would still be right.

5050BS8 votes

It was buffed too much

Dope Solo7 votes

Glad somebody finally brought this up.

YuGiHo6 votes

because playing mid a few months ago before the ignite buff was so cancer when ever mid would take barrier heal or exhaust. it was the most passive uninteractive farm feast and im glad its over.

Daddy Ants5 votes

Revert the recent buff and Ignite will be fine.

Also revert the heal cooldown nerf.

KODAK BLÄCK5 votes

Yep, exactly why I said that it didn't need buffs in the first place. What's even shittier is that Ignite straight up beats heal in early game now. Odds are you will still not survive after healing an ignite, which is so bullshit, especially pre-6. Riot really ?XD'd this one.

BEK Makadur6 votes

It got buffed because it needed it.

echorev8 votes

Point and click true damage never needs buffs

Somebody Love Me4 votes

WHY the fuck did they buff ignite in the first place lol

HaIlMonitor4 votes

It was buffed because everyone complained about passive laning so now people actually duel more.

The Last Padawan2 votes

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It was buffed because everyone complained about passive laning so now people actually duel more.

Huh, but isn’t the opposite also true? I mean, with that much damage in the game and a death or two costing practically the match, some people will just play reactive instead of proactive tbh...

OverpoweredSoap2 votes

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It was buffed because everyone complained about passive laning so now people actually duel more.

With it being so strong currently, couldn't just make people afraid to fight now because they know they'll eat a bunch of true damage?

MorgManBasher4 votes

You mean that summoner that barely anyone uses because teleport is the best summoner in the game? lol Ignite doesn't need nerfed.

Nea1044 votes

Overall damage is the problem, not Ignite per se. But they just don't listen, since NOVEMBER...

Seer of Mind3 votes

Meta summoners: Flash, Teleport, Exhaust, Ignite.

Rarely ever do i see someone with ghost and even then its most likely a Yi or Hecarim. Cleanse is basically useless with the amount of cc in the game that will bring you to a full halt and the enemy team will just catch up (FUCK MOBILITY CREEP BTW).

Literally every time I bring cleanse: Get CC'd Press Cleanse Warwick sees I've used cleanse Fear, Ult Dead

BEK Makadur1 votes

It´s always funny to see people complain about stuff like Cleanse not being good even tho it is if used right and against the right enemys a very good summoner spell. I dont think the "meta" summs are to strong, but the defensive too weak(especially barrier).

But tbh noone will listen to a bronze player.

Seer of Mind4 votes

nice rank shaming. but like you said cleanse is only good if used right, and thats hard enough to learn.

Anin7771 votes

side note: cleanse doesn't work on ww ult.

Seer of Mind1 votes

read it again bud

Anin7771 votes

Removes all disables (**excluding Suppression ** and Airborne) and summoner spells debuffs affecting your champion, as well as granting 65% Tenacity icon Tenacity for 3 seconds.

WW's ult is a suppression ability ????

Seer of Mind1 votes

ACTIVE: Warwick leaps Unstoppable icon unstoppably in the target direction, stopping upon hitting an enemy champion, Suppression icon suppressing them for 1.5 seconds.

Warwick channels while the target is Suppression icon suppressed, dealing them magic damage and applying on-hit effects once every 0.5 seconds. Infinite Duress heals Warwick for all the damage dealt by it.

Anin7771 votes

So what exactly are you trying to prove? It clearly states that he suppresses enemies.

Seer of Mind1 votes

I swear you can't read...

Anin7771 votes

I can't so please explain what you are arguing for once more.

Seer of Mind1 votes

in my post it clearly said that I used cleanse before warwick would fear then ult me

y o u c a n c l e a n s e f e a r

Kivolan3 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/a9gEuEqK-why-does-ignite-need-more-damage

Love how I pointed out how this buff wasn't needed three months ago and got shit on for it.

I played a game yesterday where it was four ignites and a smite. It's getting kind of ridiculous.

My Waifu Vanilla1 votes

Meanwhile there was a competitive game (EU I believe) where there were 7 teleports where everyone besides tahm kench and the junglers were taking it.

eaglei32 votes

Aside from ignite being good, the problem I have with exhaust as support, is with how dmg is at the moment. Poke dmg is high and both the bot lane carry and support can have tons of kill pressure, so exhaust has low value right now since you can't exhaust both. Better to take ignite and go for exchange kills.

Gamer Gallade2 votes

Ignite is a bit too strong in early game. I hope they tone it down in early levels and keep it useful for every other stages in the game.

Oakleaf Ranger3 votes

Ignite is at its strongest in the early game but gets worse as more time passes. Its dot true damage means less as everyone starts stacking health, shields, heals, and/or life steal. The grevious wounds passive is more useful mid to late game then the actually minor damage it provides.

As others have stated, it was buffed because everyone was running heal, barrier, exhaust, or tp mid which made the lane a huge farm fest. Fuck that time. As far as I'm concerned there is now more opportunity to dick on opponent instead of afk farming. Which seems to me are the ones who dont like this change. Sorry if running heal and barrier no longer act as get of jail free if your opponent is better than you.

PopcornBunni2 votes

I'd rather summoner 21 be buffed at this point. Increase its duration to match that of Ignite. Ignite will still eat through it, but at least with an increased duration it will block more than a third of the damage it deals.

OverpoweredSoap1 votes

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I'd rather summoner 21 be buffed at this point. Increase its duration to match that of Ignite. Ignite will still eat through it, but at least with an increased duration it will block more than a third of the damage it deals.

The problem with buffing barrier is that barrier becomes an issue on already safe champions that can abuse the extra safety it gives them.

Ex: Orianna Karma Lux soloLulu etc...

DNFVixen2 votes

Dmg overall esp ignite needs to be nerfed, as janna ignite alone deals 32% of my health at lvl 6 and 7. WTF is that. The one game I got cheesed, flash ignite auto I ran and lost over 50% of my health then boom the support sona flash ignite Q unempowed auto right after the last ignite wore off and i just burned to death. I got flamed by my ADC for that game noone had died in botlane before that.

Vicimus2 votes

My only problem with Ignite is that supports can take it and instantly become a threat in almost every matchup.

Its All Skillzz1 votes

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My only problem with Ignite is that supports can take it and instantly become a threat in almost every matchup.

youd think safe champs like janna/soraka/nami would want exhaust to help peel even more, nope they run ignite and pretty much 1 combo you lol.

Iceborn Pippin1 votes

You can always take summoner 1

[sg-miss-fortune]

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