Do Not Rework Irelia

Helix Flame··2 votes·626 views

I have been playing Irelia ever since she has come out and she is hands down my favorite champ. She is still banned and picked a lot so she isn't getting the Yorick or Poppy treatment. I've been seeing a lot of rumors about this, but I'm just giving my own opinion on this whole standpoint.

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Anonagon4 votes

She is getting the Yorick/Poppy treatment. She's a boring champion who is mainly picked because of her ability to counter ranged tops. She has an incredibly generic, binary kit that doesn't deliver on her fantasy in the slightest.

Eevee In A Jar3 votes

TBH I don't think Irelia is boring or anything but I agree with generic. The only reason why she's categorized like that is because she came out LONG time ago and there have been a lot of new champs since then. Also Irelia is one of those champs that always made cool looking plays; which riot loves (Zed/Lee Sin/Janna even).

With that said, I myself am looking forward to the rework though I will miss the old Irelia just like how I miss the old Sona.

WoonStruck1 votes

How do you get more creative with dive champs? You don't really. Lee Sin's about as good as you're going to get for Divers.

Her Q is one of the most unique dash tools in the game.

Her E is one of the only non-terrain conditional stuns in the game. She has to play around her Q in order to use it well.

The only exceedingly boring part of her kit is her W

Her ult fails from both a gameplay and theme standpoint because she doesn't build high AD like originally intended, and all she does with floating swords is chuck them at people to proc sheen rather than the other functionalities of it.

There are many ways to improve her kit, adding both gameplay for opponents to work around and giving Irelia more build diversity, but to say she's boring and generic is a flat out lie, considering the rest of the roster.


Mages are much more generic overall, even after their 'reworks'. Generic AoE waveclear ability, generic low CD damage ability (probably has a slow attached), generic CC. The main thing that differentiates most of them is their passive/ult.

Anonagon1 votes

I think there's a lot more room for differentiation among the Diver class than there currently is, and the only reason it appears like there isn't much room for variety and creativity is because Divers are the class that currently deliver on those things the worst. I'd disagree with your assessment that mages are more generic (though certainly there are mages who tread on each other a little too much), but that's not what this discussion is about really. One reason divers are so generic is because the class is a little too broad - characters who are often meant to be other classes kind of find their way into the diver class, like Evelynn who was meant to be an Assassin, and Aatrox who was meant to be something of a drain-tank-style Skirmisher.

I don't think its a lie at all to call her boring and generic. She is one of the most unique Divers, but I think that says more about the Diver class as a whole than it does about Irelia. Her Q is a boring ability conceptually (just a targeted nuke with a bunch of other character's targeted nuke gimmicks tacked on) that's made unique because of her E, and her E is a unique ability conceptually that's made boring because of how little ability opponents have to actually play around its condition.

Helix Flame1 votes

Irelia is hands down the funnest champ IMO. You can go mid with her, jungle is alright (better when devourer was still here), and of course top lane. Not to mention you can play her as an assassin which I love doing.

Anonagon1 votes

I mean, she might be the funnest champion to you, but there are also people who think that Warwick is the most fun champion in the game to play. Being fun for some people doesn't preclude a champion from being reworked. I'm sure people who played Old Fiora thought she was fun, but that doesn't mean she shouldn't have been reworked or that the rework wasn't good for the game. I've played Irelia. She can be fun to play. But being fun doesn't keep it from being a boring kit, and it doesn't keep it from being an absolute failure to deliver on her thematic.

ViiLLAiN2 votes

i dont see anything wrong with her lol she has clear strengths and weaknesses not sure why she would need a rework

if she does then riot has just gone to shit

warpenguin5551 votes

She is getting Sion'd. Her Q will stay. Her E might stay in some form but it will be heavily reworked if it does. The rest is gone in favor of more interesting and interactive abilities. She will probably be after Urgot and Evelynn

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