Vayne with sated jungle item can activate silver bolts in just 2 autos RITO PLEASE NO

Dunald Tromp··2 votes·1,036 views

Everyone knows that the new jungle item changes are op, but with sated on vayne her late game is ridiculous because she can get silver bolts off of two autos making it pretty much useless to try and fight her because(as a tank, bruiser or support) she kills you with a blink of a eye. I think this should be changed only for vayne, not for gnar or ekko since they wouldnt get use out of it. Just hotfix it for vayne, I threw a game bc of a vayne taking advantage of this and tearing my team to shreds, even a tank with 350ish armor she just melted in secondsVayne +item 3930 =summoner 31 satanic death

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Kochiya Sanae2 votes

jungle vayne early game is hard to pull off

Trebbi2 votes

You know I was up against a vayne trying to jungle earlier and you know what I did? I went trundle and camped her jungle when I was level 2 and onward and only leaving the scraps to delay the mob spawns.

Half of my jungle farm was from their jungle that game

67chrome2 votes

but with sated on vayne her late game is ridiculous

I feel like you're missing the fact Vayne's early game is terrible in exchange for a solid late game. The only things that really make Vayne objectively OP are the things that stifle her early game weaknesses to make her late game strength more reliable.

Which I just can't see this helping with. %AS on it's own is fairly week (even on Vayne), Vayne's capacity to get kills without items or down large creeps early is pretty questionable, and her team will likely either have minimal jungler impact or in-lane Vayne will pretty much be investing gold to be even weaker early-on in exchange for a solid power-boost 50 minutes in.


Also, for the Silver Bolts QQ - it's worth mentioning that's 60+8% max HP. Or 300 damage vs. a 3000 HP target for every proc. In the 1 silver bolt every other AA situation, Vayne still needs 20 such attacks to kill a 3k HP target with Bolts alone, or more realistically ~10 auto-attacks to kill a tank.

This is in a game where champions like Nasus exist that can 2-shot Vayne.

NemeBro1 votes

{quoted} This is in a game where champions like Nasus exist that can 2-shot Vayne.

A competent Vayne has almost nothing to fear from Nasus.

"But wither!"

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67chrome2 votes

Wither isn't Nasus's ultimate, which makes it pretty easy to use around an ult-level CD QSS active. Wither has a pretty non-existent cooldown, so short of running directly at Vayne by yourself like a derp, Nasus can deal with that. Bait the QSS, use brush, approach Vayne from an angle you'll hit her without her being slowed in the first place, run back a bit so Vayne hyper-accelerates into your back then turn around to whack her as sort of a fient... Wither isn't exactly necessary for Nasus to do things, especially if he's played by someone smarter than your average bear.

Also - item counters are available to every champion and cost gold, which pretty much invalidates your point here. Nasus can just as easily get items that make Vayne's job significantly harder. Nasus can get "more" items than Vayne to do that in this case as well, seeing as the OP is complaining about a different item than Mercurial Scimitar.

And an average game only lasts ~33 minutes and sees almost exactly ~11,000 gold per player. Which is 3 major ~3k items, ~1k in boots, and ~1k in the bank after the final team fight when someone's Nexus explodes. The last major item likely isn't going to be complete for it's unique effects until said final team fight as well, which makes the first 2 major core items rather important. A significant portion of the game time is going to pass between the acquisition of each major item, a significant portion of the game is Vayne simply not having those items.

Erockandroll1 votes

Most of what I've seen is lane vayne taking smite. annoying, but not unbeatable. (I beat her as a Jax, partially due to his counter strike. )

atomicwit2 votes

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Most of what I've seen is lane vayne taking smite. annoying, but not unbeatable. (I beat her as a Jax, partially due to his counter strike. )

Seems like a really dumb idea considering even a JG rushing Sated Devourer needs about 20-min to get there.

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