Rammus rework is NOT FUN a 6 second self slow for 60 percent is not fun!

El Hutch·5/18/2017, 4:47:22 AM·17 votes·1,296 views

Fix his W the new one is not fun the slow trade off vs the Q speed i get it its cute on paper but its not fun do better. maybe a 20 percent self slow but 60 percent at all ranks are you kidding me? with all the mobility champs in this game and his w being his main source of DMG having to get hit to deal damage is already kinda bad but it makes sense with his kit the self slow is not fun, you should have learned it from blitz crank changes. Do you even play the champs you make or just use the community as beta testers?

37 Comments

This Is Your Dad5/18/2017, 5:23:27 AM6 votes

If they want a 60% slow they need to make it a toggleable ability, and I mean on and off, not just off and then cooldown.

PeepingPeafowl5/18/2017, 6:13:41 PM5 votes

Remember when Sejuani had a self slow in her rework kit while they were testing it?

They removed it because it felt bad, and then they added the same thing for a character known to go fast?!

What?

Saianna5/18/2017, 4:28:13 PM4 votes

When will you guys learn that tank (OR ANYONE) update was meant to nerf them, so ADCs could shine even more...

Obviously Riot nerfs w/e could threated their sweet money-making right-click pokemons.

DragonShea5/19/2017, 5:40:48 AM3 votes

So we can all agree that His W should either be a toggle or have it's MS reduction lowered to 20%. That's fair.

MrHaZeYo5/18/2017, 6:11:48 AM3 votes

I think a lot of the reason for the slow was to go with you're ult. If you didn't have the slow you could just keep up with enemy massivly slowing them for already more than what you are slowed for.

Think about it. You'll roll up turn your ult on than taunt defense curl so you'll prolly get 3 hits of your tremors on them before they can start go get away so 3x8 at level 6, to give them a 24% slow, by the time they get out of your ult it'll prolly hit them twice more so 40%. You can unactivate your defense curl to drop the 60% slow thus allowing you to get all 8 hits of your ult for 64% for a extra 1.5 seconds after your ult ends. Generally at level 6 your ganking a lane so you should have your laner with you getting free damage. If they decide to not run after the taunt you have no reason to turn your defense curl off either.

So like I get why the slow is there. Keep in mind at level 11 that ult slow turns into a 80% slow and at 16 its a 96% slow.

I do think the self slow should be lowered though.

Shuyin1785/18/2017, 1:00:58 PM3 votes

Fun Fact : You can press W again to end it early.

doiminat0r36005/18/2017, 6:40:47 PM2 votes

So riot is supposed to change Rammus with significant buffs without giving him compensation nerfs?

His W now has a slow so it has a trade off. You move slower but you do more damage to whoever attacks you.

Overall, this was a huge buff to Rammus. He got AS, %MS increase, Ult damage to structures increase, and a reformed passive. All of these also do more damage if you use the whole kit.

He should have gotten more compensation nerfs for all the buffs he recieved TBH.

Naching5/27/2017, 2:11:55 PM2 votes

Rammus was fun and balanced Right now is bored and weak as hell

Thanks Riot for killing playable champs instead of fix that bunch of poor dead champs who anyone plays...

Stacona5/20/2017, 4:34:48 AM1 votes

It is so that you have a reason to turn it off. I really like the changes and they were needed so he has a real ultimate for once and so he can max W last rather first which were massive issues with him.

Negative effects for the powerful steroids are not meant to be "fun" they are meant to balance out the game so champions can have powerful effects on their kits.