Ban Kat from Hexa
She makes this game type not fun.
She makes this game type not fun.
Thats because you wont pick any cc champs... I pick Sona every game, and solo kill Kat all the time.
Agreed.
I've 1v1d a great kat as Whorenivia in hexa. If you're going to ban Kat, ban all Spin-2-wins, and all carry champs, because they can steam roll just as hard.
The problem is a fed kat has little counter-play, and the counter-play that is there puts a lot of pressure on people to play at a level most are just not at.
The first reason being, of course, the resets. The second reason being Woogles, which was not balanced with this mode in mind of course.
But the main reason: Instants.
Instant casts, instant resets, instant death.
If she can kill you before the casting animation of even your first spell finishes, or if you're not smart casting and you actually have to take the split millisecond to target her after she jumps out of a bush or into a hectic 12 player teamfight, you or whoever her first kill reset starter target is have not just little, but zero counter play against her.
Oh, and the final reason being it's a featured game mode, so MMR and matching is way off. You can only do so much to keep a kat from feeding off any one of 6 random people in that situation.
I agree, but she's the same way in ARAM, at least if the Kat knows what they're doing. Both the game modes focus heavily on teamfights, so of course she's going to be strong in them, as that's where she shines, aside from picking off low champs.
Kat is strong, but having CC on your team and knowing to use it wisely can make Kat null and void.
Kat can't do much unless the rest of her team is putting a lot of pressure on the enemy team. That doesn't change in Hexakill or ARAM.
Of course, it cuts both ways. When the enemy team is watching Kat carefully and saving their CCs and escapes for when she goes in, the rest of her team can get away with a lot more. But once again Kat's team has to be good to really take advantage of this.
play braum or leona or nautilus. rip kat.
Agreed.
CC argument is invalid. Certainly if your team managed to CC their dps you will win regardless of the enemy team comp. What you need to realize is the other team can CC as well. Kat can spiral out of control not only by their team using their CC so that you CANNOT CC her they can also easily win if your team misses a CC. Even if you land a CC on Kat as long as one of her teammates manages to kill someone so that she gets an assist she will get CD reset and continue. I always tell my teammates Kat can be shut down if you CC her but with as many team fights that take place in hexakill a good kat is going to get your solo queue match made team eventually. Now premades is a different story but it still stands that it only takes one mistake in a later game teamfight for her to cleanup your entire team pretty much by herself and her CD reset is far better than the other champs with similar abilities, Darius etc don't hold a candle to it.
This is all besides the point though because regardless of these threads RIOT will either say they don't balance around hexakill which they have always stated they balance around SR and leave it be or maybe someone who makes decisions will get annoyed enough with it and nerf her in a way that makes the rest of her kit a bit buffed so that she ends up in the same or better place in SR but nerfed in hexakill forseeing the future that maybe 6 player maps or just maps with more team fighting and less laning.
OK, if you ban Blitzcrank and Thresh too.
OK, if you ban Blitzcrank and Thresh too.
Except blitzcrank and thresh require their teammates to assist and have 0 chance to kill a group of opponents by themselves while Kat has a decent chance in solo queue to wipe groups of people solo.