Ziggs Bot lane

Linkasa··3 votes·1,037 views

Time for a bronze level rant, guys.

I have seen a lot of games lately, where instead of a regular AD carry, you get a Ziggs bot lane. Now, Ziggs, as you might know, has a long range, insane late game damage (especially if he snowballs), and his w is a satchel that can execute towers. But most importantly, he is not nearly as squishy as the average ADC. Noticing anything?

He steamrolls. Everything. The only real way, as I've seen, to counter a Ziggs bot lane, is to play another mid-laner, bot lane. Which, is not a bad idea. But then you get people who will pick Ahri bot, or Leblanc bot, or whoever, before they even see the enemy ADC, just so that they won't have to face a Ziggs bot as an ADC. This right here, is the issue. Not that Ziggs is strong. Not that it works, but that it works too well. If AP bot laners becomes the new meta, marksmen will get pushed to the side. After all, every time you see a Caitlyn mid, or a Caitlyn top, she always gets crushed.

If Ziggs bot is allowed to continue, I can see that marksmen will not just be removed from meta, or moved within the meta, they will become obsolete entirely. Not just how you don't see Urgot picks that much anymore. He still does get picked, from time to time. What I'm saying is that if Ziggs bot lane doesn't stop, Marksmen will NEVER get picked. And that ruins the game for a whole lot of people.

I'm not entirely sure why Ziggs bot became a thing, but whatever it is, in my opinion, needs removal, nerfing, or tweaking so that bot lane Ziggs will no longer work.

Some things I have thought, with their subsequent solutions.

  1. Tower execute on tower is overpowered. -this one's easy. Remove the execute from the satchel, and done.
  2. Absurdly high late game damage -possibly reduce the AP scaling of his Q, bouncing bomb, or increase the Cooldown. At first level, the CD is 4.0s. At level 5, with 40% CDR, it becomes 2.0s, which is a little nuts.
  3. Ziggs Passive, short fuse, every 12 seconds, Ziggs's next basic attack deals increased damage. Ability casts reduce CD by 4 seconds. This is pretty self explanatory. Now that I see it, this passive is likely a large reason why Ziggs bot is so effective.
  • remove the lowered CD. -increase duration between empowered basics. -reduce basic attack range. -reduce damage on passive.

I'm not saying ALL of these changes should be implemented, but I think Riot should take a good look at Ziggs, and see if they can find a way to bring down Ziggs Bot, without touching Ziggs mid too much.

There goes my rant, Peace, -Linkasa

6 Comments

rtbf2216514123 votes

He doesn't need a nerf. Bot lane towers need to be un-nerfed along with other map balancing changes. It would solve ADC, Ziggs bot, and Jungle issues at once. Instead, I see them nerfing jungle so other weaker jungles have issues.

Meep Man2 votes

Ziggs was born from the current issues in Bottom Lane, so fixing them would probably get him out of there and back to his old job. I think he does need small nerf though, like a slight range nerf on his E.

Touch My Box1 votes

How can you say marksmen will not get picked?

Either Ziggs gets banned or one team has Ziggs, the other has a marksman.

Ziggs is fine, no nerf needed. Bot lane tower needs to be fixed and less emphasis on botlane in general would solve it.,

Linkasa1 votes

This is true right now, if Ziggs gets banned, teams will both have marksmen bot. However, he likely won't get banned in every game, and I have yet to find a single marksman who can do well against him, even sivir. There are people who, in champ select, will eventually start taking mage bot if they see a ziggs on the enemy team, and those people will be the same ones who pick AP bot laners even before they see a ziggs pick. Remember, this is all on a timeline. It's certainly not going to happen overnight, and if Riot doesn't fix something, I can see things going awry for marksmen mains.

ReZisT Lust1 votes

Sivir is good i start w

BakedLotion1 votes

They just need to reduce the dumb ass e duration. That shit stays on the ground for years It should only last 5 secs max.

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