Veigar Balance Change Suggestions (From a Veigar Main)

Snorlaxstar··1 votes·946 views

Hey everyone

So I have been playing league for about 10 months now and near when I first started I started playing Veigar and really really enjoyed playing him (This was after the small rework he got earlier in the year) and I found out how strong he was and had no idea why literally no one played him in any elo.

Veigar

Anyway I played and have being playing for a long time ever since and I have considered him my main for over 8 months now but since the recent change to his passive which he received in patch 5.19 he became way too strong which I'm sure you're all aware especially as he's been played a lot and even appeared in worlds a few times. The thing that made Veigar slightly balanced was his really bad early game which I think put a lot of people off playing him but no one really found out what he capable of in late game which basically was being able to one shot people. However since this new change even the worst Veigar player in history can come back from being 0/10 in a game if he so much as auto attacks one champion which honestly has ruined the early game difficulty he used to have and made him very freelo to play which put me off him a lot.

So I just wanted to give a few suggestions which I know will balance him again if you'll hear me out because I know exactly what is broken about him.

My first thought was of course removing the assist passive on his Q, no matter how much Veigar is nerfed, if this passive still exists, he will still be broken and so easy to play.

My second thought is reducing the AP scaling on his W. A champion who gains AP all though out the game should not have an ability other than an ult (get to that later) which scales 100% with AP as that will always be broken, ALWAYS. So I was thinking maybe make it 70% or 60% instead as that makes a lot more sense IMO.

Third thought is increasing the cooldown on his E, Veigar's stun is the biggest most annoying zoning tool in the whole game and dodging it is not a piece of cake. It is so large and lasts so long that a whole teamfight could change because of it so I really think the cooldown should be increased by at least 4 or 5 seconds to make it a bit more balanced.

My final thought is his ult, now Veigar's ult, the most overpowered thing in the whole game IMO, this needs to be nerfed BIG TIME. First of all it's again 100% AP scaling, and on top of that does 500 damage at level 16 and also does 80% of a champions AP damage! If that doesn't scream broken I don't know what will. The cooldown is also so small for an ult this OP which means ever teamfight it can be used which will destory one of the main damage sources on the team making teamfights easy. So here's what I'm thinking reduce the AP scaling to about 80% at very most 100% is way too much and increase the cooldown by at very least 15 seconds, this seems extreme but seriously it's needed.

So that's my thoughts on balancing Veigar, let me know your opinions on this and hopefully Riot may consider because I want be able to play my main again, because i'm worried the changes made to him will make him unplayable which I really don't want.

Thanks for reading Snorlaxstar

TL:DR

  • Remove Q assist Passive
  • Reduce AP scaling on W
  • Increase E cooldown by at least 5 seconds
  • Increase ult cooldown and reduce AP scaling

9 Comments

Streeton1 votes

mhm i wrote the exact same thing about viegars stun on my post right after yours lol

Snorlaxstar1 votes

Great minds think a like haha

Epicusmaximo1 votes

The only change he needs is an increase in his event horizon cooldown, it's a fine line though because even now I enjoy going against veigar's because they're so easy to outplay and shut down...but apparently the masses are too fucking stupid to understand how to play against him.

Mathbalnase1 votes

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the masses are too fucking stupid to understand how to play against him.

^

Snorlaxstar1 votes

I agree with that I mean I can out play a Veigar, I'm pretty sure i've beaten one everytime I played Veigar but since this change when I've play other champions even the worst Veigar players can kill me if I just happen to get stunned by something...

SirPacifista1 votes

hmm, would prefer lower base damage on his w + q, so thats he will still have a huge lategame impact.

Snorlaxstar1 votes

Yeah just something to lower the damage because as I said a champion who gains AP thoughout the game should not have any 100% AP scaling abilities really

SirPacifista1 votes

Thats not exacly what i mean ^_^

i meant like lower BASE Damage, but the same scaling, so that he gets an even harder early game. Lategame he is meant to stomp if he could farm.

Dunkrius2g1 votes

I think you should do 1 at a time. If you put all at the same time then you will find threads "OMGZ VEIGAR SUCKZ HE NEEDZ BUFF OR WE RIOT"...

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