Revert Katarina, just like LB and Rengar were reverted!

Mystic Cold··4 votes·2,016 views

Katarina used to be fast, fun, and super smooth. Now she is super clunky, forces you to buy the same items without options, has no damage unless people are standing in her daggers, and overall feels super clunky and slow with all of her delays.

Rengar and LB were reversed and made them faster again. Made their burst more like an assassin should feel. It should be no different for Katarina. To be able to have her fast rotations, to use her passive as it was meant to be used. And to be honest, it would fix many issues that a lot of adc players, or other players that prefer squishy champions, have when playing against Katarina... her E always being out of cooldown.

Her mobility comes free, from her daggers. Before, she had to actually use her kit, including her passive, to be able to get her E again. She had to work for it. Now she is given those jumps for free, but even with high mobility, if people know how to play against it, you can't deal damage. Because they simply click to the right of left to avoid all your damage. Pre-rework, Katarina had very clear counter-play, but also gave a sense of danger if you misused your CC abilities on a front-line tank. Now she is countered by simply clicking slightly to your side, even when she catches you alone. This new Katarina is super un-fun, super slow, feels clunky, dagger mechanics and E delay feels aweful, ect.

Please Riot, listen to us for once, and let us play the champion that we Kat mains (and even those that did not main Kat, but liked playing her), loved and miss so much!

13 Comments

IP Masquerena3 votes

Reverting Rengar was a good decision, because he needed it, reverting LeBlanc was the one of the stupid decisions made lately, but hey, if Riot thinks "pressing 2 buttons is too hard", there's nothing we can do.

You said they listened with LeBlanc? I don't now what you're smoking, but I want some as well. Do you know how many players asked to keep her current live R, or at least the illusions on it? More than the number of players asking for a full revert, but do you see her having the R illusions on PBE? Me neither. So how does that equal to listening?

If that equals to "they listened to part of the community", well, bad luck for you, because that was always the case, no matter what they did, it was something certain groups of players wanted, so they always listened to parts of the community, to put it like that.

Kat isn't in a bad spot, she's more mechanically intensive than she was before, just like LeBlanc is now than what she was before, but you, just like the LeBlanc crybabies, don't like to press too many buttons, you want to have everything for as little effort as possible.

You say that reverting LeBlanc was the best decision? Let's wait till we see all the "Nerf LeBlanc" threads because she instagibs too much.

People say they want "skill expression", but when Riot gives them the opportunity, they want it removed because "it's too hard to press 2 buttons"

Sp33d Zer01 votes

LB was reverted because she didn't play like an Assassin properly. She was much more of a burst mage.

IP Masquerena1 votes

To be honest, I wouldn't had mind her class being changed from Assassin to Mage, because the live LeBlanc is just more fun (for me at least) than old one, but oh well, too late now.

I didn't like old LeBlanc, but maybe will give her a try after the revert hits live just because I have a nice skin on her.

jonjon01171 votes

I believe kat revert in on PBE.

IP Masquerena1 votes

No it's not.

So if you have any sources, care to show?

Poske1 votes

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LB was reverted because she didn't play like an Assassin properly. She was much more of a burst mage.

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Sp33d Zer01 votes

9 months later eh?

You're gonna tell me she was more of an assassin before she got reverted into not having a primer on her Q she needed for effective damage, as opposed to when her combo is immediate?

Asylum Absconder1 votes

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Reverting Rengar was a good decision, because he needed it, reverting LeBlanc was the one of the stupid decisions made lately, but hey, if Riot thinks "pressing 2 buttons is too hard", there's nothing we can do.

You said they listened with LeBlanc? I don't now what you're smoking, but I want some as well. Do you know how many players asked to keep her current live R, or at least the illusions on it? More than the number of players asking for a full revert, but do you see her having the R illusions on PBE? Me neither. So how does that equal to listening?

If that equals to "they listened to part of the community", well, bad luck for you, because that was always the case, no matter what they did, it was something certain groups of players wanted, so they always listened to parts of the community, to put it like that.

Kat isn't in a bad spot, she's more mechanically intensive than she was before, just like LeBlanc is now than what she was before, but you, just like the LeBlanc crybabies, don't like to press too many buttons, you want to have everything for as little effort as possible.

You say that reverting LeBlanc was the best decision? Let's wait till we see all the "Nerf LeBlanc" threads because she instagibs too much.

People say they want "skill expression", but when Riot gives them the opportunity, they want it removed because "it's too hard to press 2 buttons"

a player who never play katarina this season have opinion about katarina state :D first of all katarina is on bad spot all these nerfs riot did to her gut her early game if you are clever enough u can punish her hard in lane her kit doesnt compiments itself and its not about your mechanical skill but mostly enemy stupidity her kit is too predictable but people panic easily when a katarina jump on them so run in straight line and get hit from her dagger most of players dont know her e cd reset time in early lvls and her cd on her spells this is why they lose from katarina also as a katarina if you dont rush at least 3 def items against good players you have 0 pressence in game and this thing cancels the idea of an assassin ... assassins design burrst people and run away not stare like stupid inside teamfight wait their damage rengar revert was because change his identity from assassin into bruser the same happend with lb and with katarina so kat deserve her revert, players dont complain because they cant play hard champs i had last season 65 win ratio on rework kat on many games but we complain because new reworks are more stressfull to play and not fun to play compared with their old design

speciALpulsionxX2 votes

Revers kata riot pls

Lotus mortal1 votes

She gets revert ??

Gabresol1 votes

I think looking at Kata's winrate through out the elos what is the actual problem. The old Kata's winrate dropped around 10% from bronze (with always over 50%) to diamond (mostly in the middle 40%). The new Kata is a mirror image of this. Her bronze WR is slightly negative, while her Diamond WR is getting close at 54%. She is the 6th most succesful champion in Diammond+

Ol' Kata was good in low elo was strong becuase low elo players failed to use Kata' counter. Her being dead, because that is what kata was the moment she got stunned or rooted. Once she went in and did not kill a target she had no jump, no movementspeed or anything to get out. That is also why she was so bad in high elo.

Now, with her daggers, she has the mobility to escape from sticky situations and move around cc, which makes her now good in high elo, but bad in low elo since, let's face it, having to keep track of your own abilties seems to be a little to diffecult down here for some individuums.

Also. Rengar wasn't entirely reveted. Only his Q was.

Lotus mortal1 votes

I miss old kat

B00G3YMÀN1 votes

wow what a revert only mises his passive the not gone over time passive the bontooth 20 passive the hunt passive the w armor and mr and heals but further such a fucking bad job riot good shit

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