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Kisamari··1 votes·1,092 views

I don't complain a lot on the champion teams people decide to pick, but when people can litraly pick all "support" champs and destroy a legit team comp what part of it is balanced? To be able to build off the wall builds and be unstoppable because the champions are naturally tanky as hell, have high dmg, and mass cc. The champions lately are having far to much for their "role" they are suppose to be. Why would an assassin need to be tanky, they have high burst to insta gib someone, not high burst dmg with tankyness that's not what an assassin is suppose to be. Mages should be bursty magic dmg not tank burst. ITs just to much for a champion to all have making everything quite annoying to play against. kalista an adc yes she is squish but only IF you can catch her. She has that lame passive jump EVERY hit all she needs to do is build attack speed with the attack speed quints her only downfall is gone. She has a slow she has her ult wich is a knockup with quite a bit of range. Just to much on an adc .

If you want a champion to be a specific role make it where they CAN'T build something and be every role in 1 champion. Supp should do no dmg hence why they are called Supports. Adc should be squishier that's why they sit in the back doing dmg, not all up in yo face kinda thing. ect. ect.

But for a team of "support" be able to do all this nonsense! I'm sorry but that's just retarded as it gets.

19 Comments

IziMytTJd77 votes

Did you ever consider the possibility that the enemy team are just better players?

(But really though blitz ult is fucking stupid damage, for an aoe spell with no aim and a silence)

whocares1234 votes

As much as people try to tell you otherwise...the Meta is in no way supposed to be the dictator of what's effective and what's not. Stuff like this works because it can. Meta is just another term for mainstream, it may or may not be the most effective way or doing things. And even if it is the most effective, there's nothing wrong with something off beat like an all support dominating, things like this are supposed to work from time to time. It's cooperation more than organization that tends to be more effective at a non-pro elo.

e.g. Alistar is not known for topping, but is effective at it.

e.g. AP supports such as Morgana, Karma, Sona, etc. can often double as mids and become burst mages.

My point is there is wiggle room to do stuff like that. Me and my friend do double jungle from time to time, and if our team isn't completely non-cooperative about it, it works just as well as anything else.

Godhri3 votes

ha....HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

I'm SO sorry you lost to a team of supports. You simply just got outplayed man. That sucks! Whew... Really though that sucks. At least it was just a normal game.

HeraldOne3 votes

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Kisamari1 votes

that's the fun bit it wasn't a 5 man premade least my team wasnt

Zaccea2 votes

I have to agree with the other person that replied. A team of full supports shouldn't win and if they do then the enemy team got outplayed or threw. I got a bit lost in your massive wall of text, but it seems like you were complaining about the full support team doing builds they shouldn't be doing and still being successful. So I offer you a recent match history of mine. http://i.imgur.com/cIBd44w.png I was sick of people instalocking DJ Sona/Bard and not knowing support basics (but hey it's a normal, that's where you practice right?) so when I instalock Janna and the Bard instalocks... what do you think happens? "omg noob I picked support reported"? Nah. Actually he/she was a bro. "Full support team?" And that's how it started. By all means we should have lost this game. But we outplayed the enemy and took the win with champions that aren't considered OP and semi-normal builds.

Leti the Yeti2 votes

that's just rich first people are complaining bout tanks doing damage without even building damage now this guys complaining supports are doing damage for building all damage

supports arent allowed to do damage cuz theyre supports? what nonsense is that? what if I had 6 infinity edges no one gives a fuck what class they are, anyone who builds 6 infinity edgesdamage should do damage

it's not like their champs had superior stats, kits, and ratios than you HOW DID YOU EVEN LET THEM GET TO THAT POINT? face it man, they rekt you with superior skill they wouldnt have gotten that fed otherwise

There is nothing wrong with their kit, they didnt do damage cuz of their kit either All these champs are labeled as a support, the kit of a support, and the scalings of a support

Bard has no ad scalings no as steroids his kit is inferior to any other champ meant to be a damage dealer he did damage BECAUSE HE BUILT DAMAGE

Leona has no scaling above 50% except her ult her kit is inferior to any other champ meant to be a damage dealer she did damage BECAUSE SHE BUILT DAMAGE

Braum has nonexistent scalings everywhere much like Bard his kit is inferior to any other champ meant to be a damage dealer he did damage BECAUSE HE BUILT DAMAGE

Sona has 1 ability that has 50% scaling her kit is inferior to any other champ meant to be a damage dealer she did damage BECAUSE SHE BUILT DAMAGE

Blitzcrank is a pseudo support he's actually labeled has a fighter/tank so lets not talk bout him

yes the meta indeed does exist champs can be built anyway and be taken anywhere... just because you CAN, doesnt mean it's ideal yup, it's not ideal.. pretty much what the meta dictates, what is and what isnt ideal... I assure you an actual adc with the build bard had would greatly out perform him and this goes for all the other champs that rekt you... off meta champs like shen are out there... just cuz you play him doesnt mean you can't win, its just not ideal building ap tristana doesnt mean you can't win, its just not ideal adc thresh doesnt mean you can't win, its just not ideal taking teemo into the jungle doesnt mean you can't win, its just not ideal not ideal cuz of the meta dictated tat their are more suitable and superior champs, kits, builds etc.

so any other concerns ?

Kisamari1 votes

its not a matter of outplayed or not when they blitz ult half hit me with no ap

Godhri4 votes

Now that I am done laughing at your ignorance and embarassing loss, I will enlighten you. Many supports need to be able to deal a certain amount of damage to be relevant. Supports are more than just utility. They must deal damage as well; thus this is why they are capable of dealing enough to bring down half your health with one move. You have to also consider that a support is really only a support when you choose support runes and masteries. Clearly this was not the case here.

Kisamari1 votes

again why make designated "roles" for champions if people don't play them as that because they can be played as everything but if my point . its not ignorance at all

Godhri4 votes

Alright if you don't want me to call it ignorance then I won't label it as anything at all. But the fact remains that roles are designated by how you choose to play a champion. Different champions have different abilities/skill sets and each skill set is more capable at fulfilling certain roles than others. For example, Zed's skill set is very capable of killing off a single target and escaping easily making him best as the role of "assassin".

Kisamari1 votes

yes I am fully aware of that, but my point is why claim a char is a support class if you can build them to be adc, ap, tank everything just by taking diff runes and builds. defeats the whole purpose of them trying to create a meta.

zed is an assassin he does assassin things that's the point lb is an annoying mage assassin she does that and it hurts that's her job but look at sona she CAN be taken as a range ad do high dmg she can be taken as an ap again high dmg and shes labeled as a support she shouldn't do THAT much dmg on off builds because people decide to troll and do that.

I just don't see how it can be called as balanced if they can do all that is my point

Godhri2 votes

I see your point sir/madame, but you are not seeing my point. The differentiation is derived from the different ability/spell kits. LB can also be built as ADC as well (I've seen it before) or as support.

They are creating a meta to help assist people in determining what champions to pick for what roles/purpose. This is what it is for. They aren't claiming that the champion cannot be other roles but rather that it is BEST as the role indicated.

Kisamari1 votes

I see your point, that's why I don't often complain about the team comps. Crazy things work on champs that's all fine and good. I'm simply saying that the champion kits are getting a bit more and more ridiculous because riot is giving them far to much

Kisamari1 votes

and harry there is ALOT of skills that do stupid dmg that shouldn't its a bit out of hand that's my point in all this

Kisamari1 votes

I'm not complaining about supports building with what the skills scale with its expected they do dmg that way. My point is they build off the wall random crap and still do dmg without the scaling of what its ment to scale off

Kisamari1 votes

and yet again people to busy wanting to flame and troll people rather then just look at the point someone tries to make

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