Guys its OK Kayle Is not weak

Drwhitecream··1 votes·2,329 views

Kayle's early game is like playing jinx top lane you are not meant to power scale off the bat, but get incrementally stronger over time. Items, cs, and early tower gold matters....that and making sure you ban Jax . Anyways, this incremental power-scaling isn't necessarily bad but does pose a problem when your enemy team has champs that snowball hard and melt mid game. Hyper-carries are supposed to be high risk /high reward just because of the shear output they have endgame.

That said kayle's fatal flaw is that early her abilities don't do enough to help her in lane. After lvl 6 most toplaners can eat her q and walk away like nothing happened. The focus on getting gold for her is hella important and if one gets behind in any form early game you wont be doing anything until or IF you reach late game. Rather than the conventional toplane kayle i would recommend trying out jg kayle as once you get past the hurdle that is lvl6 you will be a strong ganker with slows and high burst damage++ and heal with move-speed. Honestly on paper she sounds dumb busted but her ratios are all low if rito buffed her q or e a little it might make her a monster. I myself am happy about her current state. P.S. : i have like a 80% win rate with her i don't see the problems most people are having and maybe thats just me.

11 Comments

Stars Shaper2 votes

I still have to understand the way to Rune her. Maybe once she get more play time and we see her used in professional play we all can get a better basic grasp of her.

Right now I noticed that I am doing pretty well by myself but then the entire lack of support from team mates, the unwillingness of tanks to be frontliners and every1 picking high damage without CC carries hurts her more than any matchup.

I also think Jax is pure BS. I had killed him twice on my own and got to level 9 while he was 8, 1 item behind and he killed me with one jump and AA anyway.

Paroe2 votes

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I still have to understand the way to Rune her. Maybe once she get more play time and we see her used in professional play we all can get a better basic grasp of her.

Right now I noticed that I am doing pretty well by myself but then the entire lack of support from team mates, the unwillingness of tanks to be frontliners and every1 picking high damage without CC carries hurts her more than any matchup.

I also think Jax is pure BS. I had killed him twice on my own and got to level 9 while he was 8, 1 item behind and he killed me with one jump and AA anyway.

Conq, ravenous hunter, and attack speed rune. item 1416 / item 3115 + item 3006 +item 3124 is enough to get you 2.5 attack speed with the ASP rune and levels. Conq. and ravenous hunter give you much needed sustain, your damage is AoE AND targeted so you get double healing, you scale better with AD/hybrid than you do with raw AP too.

My build is the above, plus item 3146 , item 3812, and item 3022 or item 3053 to finish it off. That extra HP is super handy when combined with your 49% damage as life.

Stars Shaper1 votes

On the first items we totally agree.

I tried conqueror but I found it underwhelming even compare to lethal tempo (might be only my impression though).

Paroe1 votes

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On the first items we totally agree.

I tried conqueror but I found it underwhelming even compare to lethal tempo (might be only my impression though).

Conq. is underwhelming but the heal and extra AD is just... good. Riot needs to change the stats that are displayed to 'true damage', 'healing', and 'total damage dealt' though, since it looks weak with such low numbers.

As for lethal tempo.... Its alright, i guess? Its easy to waste so i dont really like taking it on a champion who is meant to poke and close in.

Stars Shaper1 votes

Last matches I used Klepto and it went well (as far as team play was not involved).

Paroe1 votes

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Last matches I used Klepto and it went well (as far as team play was not involved).

That sounds like it'd definitely help her poor early. Accelerating her early game would definitely work, but once you transition into a carry youl lose most of kleptos value.

Daddy Ants1 votes

You need to banRiven

Anime Fizz2 votes

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You need to banRiven

Kayle can actually kill riven lvl 1~2 if you start with a longsword and stack her passive.

Her E does a lot of damage ppl dont expect.

Glîtchy1 votes

Her insane Lv.16 hypercarry needs to be dealt with

Drwhitecream

I agree and disagree it is strong enough that it out classes jinx hyper-carry which is wack IMO, but not too op to the point that she cant be bursted into oblivion.

Glîtchy1 votes

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I agree and disagree it is strong enough that it out classes jinx hyper-carry which is wack IMO, but not too op to the point that she cant be bursted into oblivion.

oh yes 'cause insta-killing Darius with item 3053 activated is totally fair.

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