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Fiora's window of counter play opportunity ends after champion select for the ADC

Tasteofmydisease·3/18/2015, 2:58:11 AM·1 votes·1,470 views

As an marksman main, there is literally no way of survival if the enemy team has anything but a pot plant sitting at Fiora's keyboard.

This is purely a thread asking what can possibly done to counter-play this April fools joke of a champion.

Reading through all the threads regarding Fiora this is about the only advice I've seen.

"Counter" method 1.Positioning: I sit at the back of my team, she just dashes to our front line, instantly dashes to the back (no gcd on lunge) and then ults me for 1k+

"Counter" method 2. Guardian Angel: GA? waits out the GA and just lunges for 1 k damage instantly

"Counter" method 3": "Why are you even fighting her" :

Lunge Lunge Hydra Ult doesn't give you any real choice whether you fight her or not

"Counter" method 4" summoner 3 :

Exhaust range 650 Lunge Range 600 Ult Range: 400 Not to mention she gets a free 45% movement speed cause 3 dashes and 350 base movespeed isn't enough If you exhaust her prior to her lunging, she will just walk away or wait it out. So against any non brain-dead player you have the time she travels 200 yards whilst lunging (less than half a second) to exhaust her, otherwise ADC dies.

"Counter" method 5" Jax item 3031 item 3252 item 3153 item 3046 item 3026 item 3072

If you are ADC Jax then you win.

"Counter" method 6" "well any frontline/peeler with cc will stop her before she ults"

Fiora can easily just go "Nice cc you have there sir lel lel lel {{item:3102}item 3102item 3102item 3102"

Even if you shut her down in lane, a 0-7 Fiora with a few items will soon be 1-7 if your ADC is anywhere near the fight. There just doesn't seem like much you can do short of building like Rammus against an all AD team.

They've recently nerfed Veigar because there wasn't enough room for counter-play on his 1-2k damaging single target ult, but Fiora is sitting there laughing with her AoE burst ultimate that stops her being targeted.

I would seriously like someone to provide a method of living against Fiora that isn't so easily countered by thought on Fiora's part.

inb4 "noob doesnt even know"

EDIT: Just faced one in lane, forced her 0-6-0 down 50 cs. When she could finally finish the only item needed item 3074 , she went bot and tripled with her ult. The problem with it is although each consecutive hit to the same target is reduced, the damage from hydra during her ult isnt. Its effectively her hitting you 5 times without you getting any window to respond in

14 Comments

Reynard the ƒox3/18/2015, 2:59:48 AM2 votes

Play Tristana I guess.

IcyPepper3/18/2015, 3:10:29 AM2 votes

Fiora is a melee attack damage carry. In a teamfight, she should be focused as well as the apc and adc. If your teammates allow her to get to the adc, then there's an issue. The support should be protecting you, and the frontline should have already locked her down.

And seriously, your top laner has several methods of counterplay. She has no cc or escapes, just damage. And aa reliant. item 3110 item 3075 item 3143 are items that can make her laning phase hell. And a Fiora that can't deal damage also can't take it, so if your team focuses her first (which they should, since her range means she has to get in there to deal damage) she'll die rather quickly.

FoxMikeLima3/18/2015, 7:45:48 AM2 votes

ADC's really need an item that provides stasis, Zhonya's is a lynchpin in most mage builds because it's arguably the strongest item pound for pound, especially considering the stasis passive only costs 500g. This would help against fiora while also providing counterplay for ADC's for things like Malphite Ult and Vi Ult, which currently require twitch flash/movement mechanics for malph or a morgana for vi.

IcyPepper3/18/2015, 3:12:07 AM1 votes

And seriously, adc champions are usually squishy. If a melee carry can reach you in the first place, you're dead. This is true for any assassin and bruiser. Your frontline needs to cc her and lock her down properly. Fiora is hardly unique in this regard.

LoRdJeSuS69694203/20/2015, 4:16:09 AM1 votes

The real question is why are you even playing ADC? Just put another bruiser in the bot lane, they are better champions.

LoRdJeSuS69694203/20/2015, 3:14:45 AM1 votes

Her ult alone isn't going to come close to killing you, especially if you have any teammates nearby you. If she gets exhausted before going into her ulti, she's going to do no damage, and probably get blown up just after coming out of it. If she doesn't burst you she is generally pretty fucked. And it's pretty easy to stay far enough back so she can't jump right onto you, or hit her with a single CC before she makes it there. If you want to understand just how weak she is in certain situations, try playing her some. Yes she is strong at times, but other times she is pretty underwhelming.

A Miss Fortune3/18/2015, 3:02:21 AM1 votes

MasterYi counters ADC's more. He has a Fiora ultimate on a lower cooldown that can get resets/lowered cooldowns while dismissing a lot of forms of CC. Without skill shots.

I currently play Miss Fortune, Caitlyn, Sivir, Ashe, and a lot of other ADCs (those 4 are my favorites in that order.) so I know the feeling of playing against Fiora or Yi.

Rorana3/20/2015, 3:43:04 AM1 votes

Could just sit back and wait til she uses lunge, or play an adc with a knockback so you just interrupt her 2nd one