Hi I'm a Thresh main stuck in bronze 4 any tips?

MikelTheUltimeat·Jul 31, 2016·1 votes·1,547 views

MikelTheUltimeat - North America - Summoners - League of Legends

Hello everyone! I am an aspiring ranked player looking to go to a high elo! Why did I make this thread you ask, well I have a small problem. I am unable to get out of bronze 4 due to what I think is my lack of skill or not being able to fix a bad team. I'm not thinking I am this almighty thresh god who doesn't deserve to be in bronze 4 I'm asking higher elo players to give me tips and how to better myself. Currently these are my ranked stats with thresh and other supports I like to use. "http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/61658723#ranked-stats", so if you wouldn't mind lending me your wisdom much would be appreciated as I try to the competition with my support skills!

Much thanks much love -MikelTheUltimeat [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

*as of well the responses I have recently got I shall start applying these to my overall understanding and practice of the game to those who gave me good advice and had the bravado to help me out I truly thank you this has in short, brightened my view of leage and my current skill level in the game thanks to those who helped and supported me with good criticism [slayer-pantheon-thumbs] PPS: to those who want to see how exactly my playstyle is with thresh I will be playing a game in about 5-10 minutes any friend requests i get around there will be accept for the education and analysis purposes on how to better my mechanics and gameplay toodles for now!

19 Comments

ZambieKillahJul 31, 20162 votes

START HOOKING THINGS THATS WHAT GOT ME TO BRONZE 1 :D Thresh #thresh main

disregardableJul 31, 20161 votes

I prefer this response over the other 2. Higher elo players tend to forget that the people in Bronze are literally horrible. Consistently landing hooks and getting kills is MUCH easier. It does NOT take as much skill to play Thresh effectively. People literally stand still in lane. They may not realize there are not minions in front of them. They may not know how long Thresh's range is or how much time it takes for the hook to land.

You don't need to stop playing support to rank up. You just need to work on getting better results. Notice the phrasing, not "better" in some vague way. You want objectively better results from your games. More assists, less deaths, more objectives taken, more wards, more effectiveness. That's what you need to work on.

MikelTheUltimeatJul 31, 20161 votes

thank you for the advice I shall strive for more efficient gameplay with all of my supports

Taric the GayJul 31, 20162 votes

Well if you ever want to reach Diamond you had better become a Taric main.

http://www.auplod.com/u/pdolua802d6.png

DarkRitualJul 31, 20162 votes

Stop building archangels staff. Build sightstone.

item 3401 item 2049 item 3117 item 3190 Rest of build is situational based on enemy team, usually from among these: item 3102 item 3222 item 3512 item 3143 item 3083

LatetotheRaceJul 31, 20162 votes

I would recommend not maining a support until you get out of bronze/low silver. You just really can't carry as a support in such low elos.

FioraWillCarryJul 31, 20161 votes

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I would recommend not maining a support until you get out of bronze/low silver. You just really can't carry as a support in such low elos.

I strongly disagree. Very strongly. I met a dude in a Bronze 2 game who managed to reach Silver 4 playing nothing but Thresh. He's currently close to Silver 3. And it's not hard to understand why. The guy is really good with Thresh.

Of all the people who I've duoed with, Jungle players, Mid players, he as a support is probably the most reliable duo partner I've ever played with. Support can carry in Bronze....especially in Bronze and champions like Thresh are just perfect for this.

@OP

Lemme tell you what I learned from watching him play in our games. The most significant thing I noticed with him is that he builds a lot of support items and he uses them. He tends to build items that can help his allies by shielding them and stuff.

Next, is his dedication to the control of vision. Every time I look at him he's sweeping some bush to clear wards and he places a tonne of wards all over the place all throughout the game. He's especially keen when it comes to preparing for Dragon which he does by placing wards on the enemy side so we can see who and when the enemy is coming to contest Dragon and he sweeps and clear enemy wards near by. This is a habit mind you, not something he does now and again. He does it all the time, every game.

When it comes to using Thresh's abilities this is where he shines. He's very good at leading a target to land a hook. I've seen him hook someone blind a split second after they flashed over a wall out of vision range. He has an uncanny sense of which direction opponents are going to run in so he can throw his hook into them.

However, you don't need to be that good. The majority of hooks he lands is simply by playing smart. The most significant thing he does unlike other Thresh players in Bronze is how he engages to land a hook. Most players simple throw their hooks whenever they feel like. This is why they miss. What he does when he's looking to hook someone is walk right up to them and wait for them to react. If they try to run away, he waits a bit so he can get a sense of where they're running to and then throws his hook. He lands his hooks 90% of the time using this strategy. Now and again players would juke it but most times, at least in Bronze, players run away in a straight line which makes it very very easy to land a hook and the fact that he walks up to them means he's quite close to them so it's near impossible to miss.

If he walks up to them and they decide to fight, he walks right in, flays them, and usually an ally would engage, if one is near by or if not, he would auto them repeatedly and if they try to flee to avoid dying, he takes his time to assess the direction they're running in and then he hooks them back in to prevent their escape. If he really wants to commit, he goes in after the hook and ults. I've seen him turn entire team fights by doing these series of actions.

And if you really want to shine. Learn to throw lanterns for your allies when you're going for a play. I've gotten lots of kills from him this way. When he throws a lantern out during a skirmish, I know he's going for a play. He usually follows up by hooking someone after I grab it and we often end up killing them. You can get your teammates fed by learning how to incorporate the lantern into your plays. It's what Thresh is about.

So in short. You can get out of Bronze with Thresh. A good Thresh player is not something to take lightly. Trust me when I tell you, a good Thresh is better than an average Blitz. The only reason people don't ban Thresh like they do Blitz is because not many people can play Thresh that good, but Thresh is very strong.

LatetotheRaceJul 31, 20161 votes

Is it possible? Yes. Is it difficult? Very yes. If he wants to leave the lower elos, it would be much simpler to play another role.

FioraWillCarryJul 31, 20161 votes

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Is it possible? Yes. Is it difficult? Very yes. If he wants to leave the lower elos, it would be much simpler to play another role.

I think fun is important too. It's better he plays something he enjoys. If one has to grind playing something they don't like then it makes the grind that much harder. Point is, I've seen how a good Thresh can carry Bronze games so I know it's definitely possible. If he takes the time to learn the champion, he will be able to escape Bronze with him. I have no doubt about that. It would be harder than learning to carry with a champ like Jax or Akali, I agree with you, but would he enjoy it ?

dominusxJul 31, 20161 votes

Don't play champs that require skill. simple i offer this to everyone regardless of elo this game doesnt need skill to climb up to plat after plat you need game knowledge to carry games and after diamond you then need some actual skill. Why play thresh when you can play broken ass Braum that can CC/Peel/engage/disengage/blockskillshots with little to no braincells whereas you play Thresh who needs a lot of skill to land his main cc which is his Hook and a short range cc beeing his flay which can be easily dodged and his ulti is easy to dodge aswell. I don't say you shouldnt try to improve but i'm saying that you should stick to this easy and braindead champs to climb faster your skill and game knowledge will improve as you rise anyway. I mean 2 years ago i couldnt play lee sin i picked him up recently after not touching him and his mechanics come out natural. ALL in all try and look for your mistakes when u die ask yourself WHY did i die there. when you miss a kill ask yourself how COULD I SECURE THAT. This way you will improve and ignore flamers i cant stress that enough and play as i mentioned all the bs no braincells champs to make your life easier untill you improve generally cause this game takes NO SKILL at least not now that you can stomp lane and the guy afk farms cause you dont do any meaningfull dmg to towers and you flipcoin a 5v5 late game

MikelTheUltimeatJul 31, 20162 votes

why do i play thresh because I'm passionate about playing him and i have extensive practice with sure i could just go braum but never playing the champ i love and strive to be better with in my opinion makes the game less enjoyable overall. why use thresh because 1. I love every single thing about his kit 2. I've played over 110 games with him and have improved my use of mechanics OVER ALL the champions I play thanks to me learning and using thresh 3. hes honestly my favorite and the support I do most positive with. and overall i thank you for the advice . Cheers!

MikelTheUltimeatJul 31, 20161 votes

that was to a specific comment it just didn't show up with his text.*

dominusxJul 31, 20161 votes

that's why you wont climb then. you need to play braindead champs to climb i mean look at all this trash kennen and illaoi players who can lose lane 0-2 and 50cs down and still win a game by the press of 2 button. Gl tho

NinjaGuy69Jul 31, 20161 votes

Honestly, the best advice I can give to any support main in the lower elos is to main another role that you can carry from. If you believe that you're far above the skill level of the players in most of your games, then you should be trying to carry instead of relying on them to do it.

I'd try learning 2 to 3 "safe" mid laners who aren't constantly banned (for example Ahri, Lissandra, Anivia) or 2 to 3 easy top laners (for example Darius, Maokai, Renekton) and try to carry with them. Then, when you think you've hit a bump in the road and can't seem to climb anymore, go into some normal games and practice on more basic (yet fundamental) mechanics, like last hitting minions, dodging skill shots, positioning in team fights and item builds. All of these will help you get better and they're not very hard to do at the lower elos.

Also, one thing I noticed about your support games is that you have a lot of deaths when you play supports like Thresh and Taric, which is fine. This is probably because you try to make risky engages or dive into fights to save your teammates. Two very important things to remember in any role are:

Don't try to be a hero and make Godly solo plays unless you're positive you can get in, secure the kill, and get out.
If a teammate gets caught and is going to die, let them die - don't dive in to save them just to die along with them.

Bronze 4 may seem like elo hell but when you're at the bottom, there's nowhere to go but up. So practice those simple mechanics on some easy, safe, reliable champs in normal games until you can transition them into ranked and I'm sure you'll start climbing quickly.

MikelTheUltimeatJul 31, 20161 votes

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Honestly, the best advice I can give to any support main in the lower elos is to main another role that you can carry from. If you believe that you're far above the skill level of the players in most of your games, then you should be trying to carry instead of relying on them to do it.

I'd try learning 2 to 3 "safe" mid laners who aren't constantly banned (for example Ahri, Lissandra, Anivia) or 2 to 3 easy top laners (for example Darius, Maokai, Renekton) and try to carry with them. Then, when you think you've hit a bump in the road and can't seem to climb anymore, go into some normal games and practice on more basic (yet fundamental) mechanics, like last hitting minions, dodging skill shots, positioning in team fights and item builds. All of these will help you get better and they're not very hard to do at the lower elos.

Also, one thing I noticed about your support games is that you have a lot of deaths when you play supports like Thresh and Taric, which is fine. This is probably because you try to make risky engages or dive into fights to save your teammates. Two very important things to remember in any role are:

Don't try to be a hero and make Godly solo plays unless you're positive you can get in, secure the kill, and get out.

If a teammate gets caught and is going to die, let them die - don't dive in to save them just to die along with them.

Bronze 4 may seem like elo hell but when you're at the bottom, there's nowhere to go but up. So practice those simple mechanics on some easy, safe, reliable champs in normal games until you can transition them into ranked and I'm sure you'll start climbing quickly.

I thank you for the advice I'll take that to heart!

TheLazySunbroJul 31, 20161 votes

Im a Thresh main but Im in Gold not that high but could help a bit, So I looked through your account and there is something I noticed

You never have Sightstone item 2049 item 2045 Vision is important in this game
For some reason you build item 3003 which idk why so plz stop building that

Been in gold I don't see people using item 3222 on in effective manner cause neither do I, even vs CC teams so I wouldn't recommend that item even doe its useful

Runes: Your Rune page called ''Thresh'' is very diverse and has runes/sources Thresh doesn't require

Here's my Thresh or any Tanky support rune Pages I use

9x Attack DMG Red 9x HP Yellows 9x Magic Resistance Blues 3x Armor Quints

Let's go to Masteries If you're going 0/18/12 dont go Windspeaker because Thresh is not really is a shields/heal champion so go Thunderlords on him, keep in mind if you're going Thunderlords 0/18/12 you're a killer lane so go Ignite also

If you want the passive lane go 0/12/18 for Bond of Stone and get exhaust/ignite

Never use your Flay for dmg, always use it to deny a dash/escapes enemy such as Lucian Dash or Trist Jumps Shyvana Ult Leonas initiation dash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCnjyITVerc You need good reaction to do this

Other then that I will look more this is for now, gl

MikelTheUltimeatJul 31, 20161 votes

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Im a Thresh main but Im in Gold not that high but could help a bit, So I looked through your account and there is something I noticed

You never have Sightstone Vision is important in this game
For some reason you build which idk why so plz stop building that

Been in gold I don't see people using on in effective manner cause neither do I, even vs CC teams so I wouldn't recommend that item even doe its useful

Runes: Your Rune page called ''Thresh'' is very diverse and has runes/sources Thresh doesn't require

Here's my Thresh or any Tanky support rune Pages I use

9x Attack DMG Red 9x HP Yellows 9x Magic Resistance Blues 3x Armor Quints

Let's go to Masteries If you're going 0/18/12 dont go Windspeaker because Thresh is not really is a shields/heal champion so go Thunderlords on him, keep in mind if you're going Thunderlords 0/18/12 you're a killer lane so go Ignite also

If you want the passive lane go 0/12/18 for Bond of Stone and get exhaust/ignite

Never use your Flay for dmg, always use it to deny a dash/escapes enemy such as Lucian Dash or Trist Jumps Shyvana Ult Leonas initiation dash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCnjyITVerc You need good reaction to do this

Other then that I will look more this is for now, gl

Thank you for the insight I shall rework my masteries and runes accordingly .

Exta5yJul 31, 20161 votes

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Hello everyone! I am an aspiring ranked player looking to go to a high elo! Why did I make this thread you ask, well I have a small problem. I am unable to get out of bronze 4 due to what I think is my lack of skill or not being able to fix a bad team. I'm not thinking I am this almighty thresh god who doesn't deserve to be in bronze 4 I'm asking higher elo players to give me tips and how to better myself. Currently these are my ranked stats with thresh and other supports I like to use. "**http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/61658723#ranked-stats**&quot;, so if you wouldn't mind lending me your wisdom much would be appreciated as I try to the competition with my support skills!

Much thanks much love -MikelTheUltimeat [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

*as of well the responses I have recently got I shall start applying these to my overall understanding and practice of the game to those who gave me good advice and had the bravado to help me out I truly thank you this has in short, brightened my view of leage and my current skill level in the game thanks to those who helped and supported me with good criticism [slayer-pantheon-thumbs] PPS: to those who want to see how exactly my playstyle is with thresh I will be playing a game in about 5-10 minutes any friend requests i get around there will be accept for the education and analysis purposes on how to better my mechanics and gameplay toodles for now!

Hate to say it, but you might just suck at playing thresh. Try other support, even the unconventional ones. Thresh is a play maker. You have to know when to go in. DOnt always go in on all the hooks u land. You must also understand your adc's power spikes as well as your team.

nightman360Jul 31, 20161 votes

thresh has a very high skill cap and can potentially carry a game by setting up plays either with a good hook, flash ult, upsetting a devastating enemy cast with his flay or the survival or incoming of a team mate with his lantern. most people will agree he is an off tank and can become quite healthy. bc of this most enemies will not focus you. and bc they wont focus you I like to build his Runes a little bit different bc he has some really nice early game dmg and harass.

x9 armor seals x3 hybrid pen quints x9 hybrid pen marks x9 cdr glyphs

his masteries are gonna basically be tanky supp and I like to go with the Bond of Stone to help mitigate some dmg from my adc. ofc anytime you are playign supp you should be grabbing bandit as well.

as far as what to build it really depends on your situation and what is going on around you. ALWAYS get sightstone. sometimes its hard to choose between face of the mountain shield and the Eye of the Equinox but the shield can be very helpful especially in bronze when your team mates wont click on your lantern. Thresh is almost worthless when alone so try to stay with a teammate ideally your adc.

obviously im no pro but bronze 1 so you are going to have to take my advice with a grain of salt ;P I love to play thresh and did main him in supp for awhile back in season 4. right now healers are the real big deal in the support role namely sona and raka. They can carry even the worst teams by keeping them healthy and in the fight. I would also recommend only playing supp as your secondary so that you can actually achieve better rank due to your own skillset. I main jungle and climb that way. I would also recommend only playing passive aggressive(punish the enemy for their mistakes dont make your own mistakes by trying to push them out of lane) this will allow your adc to feel more secure within lane. builds trust and synergy.

best of luck to you.