It's really rare for me to be able to fight this guy and come out alive, even in 2v1's, I'm just bad against him. I know attack speed reduction is perfect against him but buying it for a Jax only doesn't seem effective. So does anyone have any tips on his weaknesses? BTW I would also appreciate tips against Ryze, GP and Amumu.
420 grams1 votesHis e does more damage the more you try to hit him during it. Seems obvious not to hit him during it, but you'd be surprised how many people try.
RaykanGhost1 votes[{quoted}](name=420 grams,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fUObpOaf,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-12T21:48:51.368+0000)
His e does more damage the more you try to hit him during it. Seems obvious not to hit him during it, but you'd be surprised how many people try.
I just try to run as fast as I can x') I main Vi and it's pretty hard to deal with him, and if he's fed, well I can't.
Billy VoHagen1 votesFinding a way to dodge his stun is always really helpful, and avoid 1v1'ing him later on or when he's fed. Grouping and allowing your carries to kill him if you're top or jg (I assume, since you want tips on countering him) will be very good.
But yeah, he is pretty annoying.
RaykanGhost1 votes[{quoted}](name=Billy VoHagen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fUObpOaf,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-12T21:49:16.764+0000)
Finding a way to dodge his stun is always really helpful, and avoid 1v1'ing him later on or when he's fed. Grouping and allowing your carries to kill him if you're top or jg (I assume, since you want tips on countering him) will be very good.
But yeah, he is pretty annoying.
More than just annoying, low elo Jaxs either split push or assassinate, and in neither of those cases does a team try to collapse on him, so I always try to do short trades, however as a Vi main that is really hard and really I should be with my team and winning team fights and not fighting a jax, that if left alone can really destroy your base alone.
Rockm Sockm1 votesAttack speed slows don't help as much due to auto resets.
Dodge his stun, short trade with him when he has low stacks, build new vest and laugh?
The best thing I suggest is playing Jax yourself to learn his patterns and weakness.
RaykanGhost1 votes[{quoted}](name=Rockm Sockm,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fUObpOaf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-07-12T21:51:31.979+0000)
Attack speed slows don't help as much due to auto resets.
Dodge his stun, short trade with him when he has low stacks, build new vest and laugh?
The best thing I suggest is playing Jax yourself to learn his patterns and weakness.
Meh, when Malphite uses his E or even when Nasus uses his E Jax's power is a lot smaller (Because it isn't just 15% reduction) but I get your point. Haven't tried the new vest but it seems awesome!
Asayake 5150glow1 votesShort trades and dodge his E.
Gangplank is all in him without letting him poke you. Dodge barrels or destroy them. Farm the best you can without taking too much poke until you can win an all in.
RaykanGhost1 votes[{quoted}](name=Cant Hold Me Now,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fUObpOaf,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-07-12T22:08:22.505+0000)
Short trades and dodge his E.
Gangplank is all in him without letting him poke you. Dodge barrels or destroy them. Farm the best you can without taking too much poke until you can win an all in.
Since I main Vi mostly it's hard to dodge his E, even worse to do short trades even though sometimes I manage to. About GP: So if his team is all grouped should I focus him? Or does that only apply towards laning phase?
Asayake 5150glow1 votesSince I main Vi mostly it's hard to dodge his E, even worse to do short trades even though sometimes I manage to.
Don't fight him without friends: Jax is a far better duelist than you are, and the only way you're killing him is with a oneshot combo... which will not happen if you cannot use half your kit (can't use E, can't proc W without using E). If his E is down then go for it.
About GP: So if his team is all grouped should I focus him? Or does that only apply towards laning phase?
Hella focus him, GP is a teamfighting god. AoE 80% slow, 40% armor ignoring barrels are scary af.
RaykanGhost1 votes[{quoted}](name=Cant Hold Me Now,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fUObpOaf,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-07-12T23:05:48.891+0000)
Don't fight him without friends: Jax is a far better duelist than you are, and the only way you're killing him is with a oneshot combo... which will not happen if you cannot use half your kit (can't use E, can't proc W without using E). If his E is down then go for it.
Hella focus him, GP is a teamfighting god. AoE 80% slow, 40% armor ignoring barrels are scary af.
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oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesjax is great in prolong fights due to his passive his dodge, and his ult
he has mix damage
quick burst/ trades are ideal
champs that excel at these kind of fights/trades do well vs him
he is really good vs auto attackers so auto attacker based champs arent ideal
he has no natural sustain... he is an auto based champ
he can close the gap on you with his leap and also use this as an escape having a way to counter this , mobilty/gap closer cc is good
exhaust is a good spell vs jax... if he gets to 4 items the odds of 1 vs 1 him slim to none
RaykanGhost1 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fUObpOaf,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-07-12T22:26:19.487+0000)
jax is great in prolong fights due to his passive his dodge, and his ult
he has mix damage
quick burst/ trades are ideal
champs that excel at these kind of fights/trades do well vs him
he is really good vs auto attackers so auto attacker based champs arent ideal
he has no natural sustain... he is an auto based champ
he can close the gap on you with his leap and also use this as an escape having a way to counter this , mobilty/gap closer cc is good
exhaust is a good spell vs jax... if he gets to 4 items the odds of 1 vs 1 him slim to none
I know Nasus fairs pretty well with enough stacks since his Q passes through Counter Strike (Or it did once, not sure about nowadays). I main Vi so I should just avoid 1v1's against him?
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesif you have the clear advantage then take him on... if its even or he has an advantage no
this being said the other day i faced him top lane as maokai ... now i play a very aggressive maokai in lane... and i have cdr... and tanky... i have lots of cc... i was to win and beat him in lane. he knew he couldnt fight me so he farmed then ran off to gank other lanes and got kills else where i went 4-1-5 and he just avoided me he ended up doing jax things even though i won hard early in lane he ended up 9-5-0 and had a good amount of damage dealt
after he got triforce and bork i couldnt fight him alone any more
RaykanGhost1 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fUObpOaf,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2017-07-12T23:08:09.534+0000)
if you have the clear advantage then take him on... if its even or he has an advantage no
That's a bit vague, although true. However as a Vi it's hard to get an advantage, so I guess not. At least against a Jax.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesyes n no... as vi you have engage, hard cc, armor pen/reduction , if you can blow him up then take him on... if you try to fight him in an extended fight i say you lose but you should be stronger early vs him he is a farm gold item dependent champ he scales really well late... vi kinda peaks earlier in game
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fUObpOaf,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-12T23:13:30.307+0000)
yes n no... as vi you have engage, hard cc, armor pen/reduction , if you can blow him up then take him on... if you try to fight him in an extended fight i say you lose but you should be stronger early vs him he is a farm gold item dependent champ he scales really well late... vi kinda peaks earlier in game
He won't be able to blow him up because Jax E will stop his W and E from doing anything.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 voteswell it depends did jax blow e on somethign else? did you bait his e? there are ways around this ... your assumption is jax always has E up
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fUObpOaf,comment-id=0004000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-12T23:16:44.463+0000)
well it depends did jax blow e on somethign else? did you bait his e? there are ways around this ... your assumption is jax always has E up
There aren't really ways around it unless you have friends.
VINIE221 votespls who can help me? what is build and runes to kill 
vs 
bcs jax is really strong
Warlord Rhinark1 votesIf you alpha when he uses E, he can't stun you.
BizzaroGood1 votesMundo counters good
Olympic Pegasus1 votesjax has a nerf , still strong af with new conqueror cause now he can heal lmao . when riot will nerf for real ? jeez
ResPecT061 votesIm a jax main and im here to learn how others try to counter me so i can beware of everything, u guys should do the same it helps out alot