I've been playing this game since 2010, throughout all the changes you have made I have stayed and played through, however with the most recent change to jungle and the experience I am now considering quitting which i have never done before. If there's no announcement about changing jungle then I'm going to have to quit because this game is no longer enjoyable
RekSai CoffeeCo7 votesI agree Jungle needs to be changed. Scuttle needs to be reverted.
Jungle shouldn't be 2-4 levels below solo laners for about 6 mins in game (unless they really mess up) up to 10 min mark in game (which is putting them esp non meta/late game junglers at a severe disadvantage thus killing diversity) which currently is midgame in this super short game times meta.
Pixie Storm1 votesI have to choose between showing jungle presence or farming. I got my first S- in the jungle today AFTER I helped every lane and farmed in the jg to catch up on exp later on. The enemy jg decided to power farm after I had ganked every lane. Once every one is out of lane they walk into your jg and steal your monsters anyway so it takes longer. I donated my blue and felt the wrath of lost exp.
WøOxer1 votes[{quoted}](name=Pixie Storm ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fAUKVOsr,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-07-09T23:32:50.732+0000)
I have to choose between showing jungle presence or farming. I got my first S- in the jungle today AFTER I helped every lane and farmed in the jg to catch up on exp later on. The enemy jg decided to power farm after I had ganked every lane. Once every one is out of lane they walk into your jg and steal your monsters anyway so it takes longer. I donated my blue and felt the wrath of lost exp.
Exactly my problems. If I gank after gank, I fall off in XP, if I farm more I basically can't making more ganks than few in entire game.
Daddy Ants1 votes[{quoted}](name=RekSai CoffeeCo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fAUKVOsr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-09T23:24:36.494+0000)
I agree Jungle needs to be changed. Scuttle needs to be reverted.
Jungle shouldn't be 2-4 levels below solo laners for about 6 mins in game (unless they really mess up) up to 10 min mark in game (which is putting them esp non meta/late game junglers at a severe disadvantage thus killing diversity) which currently is midgame in this super short game times meta.
Nor should Junglers be ahead of their solo laners in levels.
I think junglers should be a level or 2 behind solo laners at most, not as extreme as 4 levels.
Janakin3 votesI used to pick amumu, choose a lane that is easy for me to win, make sure my laner is snowballing, leaving my jungle creeps if I get invaded, scaling into late game and through communication, and I dare to say leadership, going for victory (I used to be #24 amumu at lolking, not that it would mean much, but stil...). But now? Try to play like this. I get flamed 70 % times I do this. This kind of playstyle is dead.
SwiftKitten882 votesyes they are.. but honestly having bruiser and assains bot lane is even worse... i LIKE support and i cant even do it anymore...
like how the bloody fuck amd i supposed to peel for my adc agains champs like 
who can dash over and over or 
or 
who can flat out break any for of cc i throw at them...
that coupled with them breaking matchmaking on the 6th made me not play league until something is fixed
Love Anastasia2 votesThe problem is that they didnt hear the feedback in their 500 downvotes posts
Jaygo411 votesThe problem is that there's a huge resource in the room that snowballs the game really hard. Crab allows junglers that are ahead to stay ahead with little recourse as even their ganking options now become limited by the vision in the river.
xJLx MCHammer1 votesThis is what laners wanted.
Damage was so high that all junglers needed to do was ult a lane and you'd be close to death. All trundle has to do with a Yas is pillar. The damage is so high that you get set behind regardless
So the only way to stop this is to make sure junglers cant gank easily...or at all
Rıots Bad Client1 voteshow would you improve it?
And. dont say "revert it".
º Kindred º2 voteshow would you improve it?
And. dont say "revert it".
Thats the problem, the only way to improve it is to revert it. Just make the jungle spawns shorter so you actully have to plan your jungle route again and make it more punishable if you're bad at doing so. I dont like it to literally waste 2 mins of doing nothing because the jungle takes ages to respawn (thats also the only reason why funeling has become a thing (which is imo just cancerous)). And make scuttle less of an impact of a game. I dont want to lose just because rng was on the enemies favor.
Rıots Bad Client1 votesCouldn't you make the jungle creeps just take longer to take down(give them more health, with more resistances) But also reduce the damage to match the timer rates. And lets say after taking down a jungle creep you heal like 100hp or something so that everyone has a decent jungling sustain. and say give more gold from them.
(and much like the Crab. If you have a CC and use it on Jungling creep it would shred some resistances.) making 
not fall completely.
And I would say some 'assist' gold
For example, if the enemy jungler comes in and just smites it because you have a slower clear. You will be given 20% of the gold and 20% of the exp.
and we can also maybe add if you have Smite you will make less gold from minion wave but more from jungling.
Another addition you can also make. Have the camps Have unique attacks, so you can dodge/negate them TO get a really healthy clear. Like a poison empowered attack where he channels it, and you can disrupt it. the wolves, so that the little wolves grant the larger one attack speed. the birds can have a skill shot like Kogs R, so its impossible to dodge ALL of them. unless you clear most of them. this is just a few.
Leto GT1 votesThey won't change it sadly. I've stopped jungling since that patch. I kinda miss it but I'm better off laning than being in that toxic jungle where I'm forced to be an early-meta slave.
