@Riot - Have you ever thought of a champion that actually BREAKS the terrain?

Satly·Jan 18, 2016·14 votes·8,385 views

For example, the wall behind dragon pit- have there ever been any ideas of champions breaking said wall, temporarily or for that whole match?

37 Comments

RiotMeddlerJan 18, 201630 votes

We've talked about terrain destruction abilities a fair bit and do think there's some pretty cool gameplay opportunities in them. Making such abilities look good enough's the biggest challenge remaining at this point (still some technical and design issues to solve, but of a smaller scale). Given the way our maps are made there'd be a lot of work on the art side needed to support such abilities. I'm hopeful we'll get there at some point, definitely won't be in the short term though.

SatlyJan 18, 20164 votes

Thanks for the response!

KONO RUBICK DAJan 18, 20162 votes

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We've talked about terrain destruction abilities a fair bit and do think there's some pretty cool gameplay opportunities in them. Making such abilities look good enough's the biggest challenge remaining at this point (still some technical and design issues to solve, but of a smaller scale). Given the way our maps are made there'd be a lot of work on the art side needed to support such abilities. I'm hopeful we'll get there at some point, definitely won't be in the short term though.

what about terrain passing? like a dragon who can fly through walls?

RiotMeddlerJan 18, 20164 votes

Some form of ongoing flight on a champion at some point's pretty likely, and mainly a question of finding the right gameplay fit, rather than technical limitations. Would be a really different ability though to terrain destruction of course (changing one characters options a lot versus changing both teams' options a lot).

MelledoneusJan 18, 20161 votes

Which reminds me... how does the game determine whether a dash gets through a wall or not? Many times I've had to walk around thin walls because my dash (in this case, Shen's E) completely fizzled out and dashed me into a wall like I was a drill. And how would the destruction of terrain change that?

Hyrum GraffJan 19, 20161 votes

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Which reminds me... how does the game determine whether a dash gets through a wall or not? Many times I've had to walk around thin walls because my dash (in this case, Shen's E) completely fizzled out and dashed me into a wall like I was a drill. And how would the destruction of terrain change that?

If you would dash more than halfway through, you'll make it all the way through.

ApocalypsicApr 14, 20161 votes

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what about terrain passing? like a dragon who can fly through walls?

YOU HAVE PREDICTED THE FUTURE.

MelledoneusJan 18, 20165 votes

I think it would have been fitting to see this on somebody like Sion , who was made to destroy. Destroying terrain with his ult would have been really cool.

SpoofghoulJan 18, 20162 votes

Yes i second this

aslo i think Malphite should count as terrain because he is a rock ^^

MelledoneusJan 18, 20167 votes

https://i.imgflip.com/xkku2.jpg

charcharmunroJan 18, 20161 votes

That meme still exists? I feel old now.

what you deserveJan 18, 20161 votes

From the programming side, it could work pretty similarly to Bard's Magical Journey (e) just with less loss of control. Just food for thought

RiotMeddlerJan 18, 20162 votes

It's not so much the programming side, as it is making the destroyed terrain look good (rubble of broken walls, destoyed trees, appropriate ragged edges for still standing terrain etc).

Duke AnaxJan 18, 20161 votes

maybe for a start you could make a champ that can break only certain points in the map.

Or how about a champ that can make (and brake) permanent terrain?

RiotMeddlerJan 19, 20165 votes

Certain points only would be a good way of reducing scope. Might also be a good fit for an item or summoner spell, rather than a champion.

ThryaleJan 19, 20161 votes

omg! a summoner spell that could both make and break permanent terrain would be so awesome! Would really alter how the game is played if done right.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

CrossetteJan 19, 20162 votes

That would be the new flash and absolutely unbalanced.

WALL OFF MID LANE, MY FRIENDS

AkeneroJan 19, 20161 votes

has done a concept about this http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/ByiGj8uI-vera-the-miner-girl-champ-concept

Would it be possible to have a flag(programming flag) on each unit of terrain which is set as giving a champion a permanant ghost effect while in the tunnel(usng minions as the tunnel)

Updated the concept http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/AE8FNI2N-vera-the-mountains-bane

John BerserkJan 19, 20162 votes

What if, to make it easier (and perhaps more interesting), the broken terrain was sliced cleanly in the shape of a sphere, Terminator-style? http://www.blu-raystats.com/img_scr/Terminator2JudgmentDaySkynetEdition_12236103646_4.png

That would allow you to basically use a sort of spherical "erase"-tool on the environment, and maybe add a sort of red-hot burn effect, but not much more would have to be done.

As for the permanence or lack thereof of the environmental destruction, maybe it can revert back to its original state after a minute or so, like maybe it can "go back in time" or something.

what you deserveJan 19, 20161 votes

ah, things like how if you were to just cut open a wall at random you'd probably be able to see through the wall and into the void?

EvilMerodachJan 18, 201610 votes

Year 2021: Leona rework. New Passive: MOVE BITCH! Whenever Leona comes in contact with short walls (the ones ~~most~~ all champions as of 2020 can dash over) she permanently smashes the terrain, damaging (20xlevel + "true armor" dealt as 'pure damage') all enemy units within 150 radius. ( 40 second cooldown, unaffected by cdr )

PlacentasJan 18, 20163 votes

Hahaha brutal. Love the "Move Bitch" name too.

Dominick DestineJan 18, 20169 votes

Bard

Valor BotJan 18, 20167 votes

I think the OP is referring to a Champion that literally breaks and crumbles the stone walls around Summoner's Rift.

LaoBushidoJan 18, 20166 votes

I think bard is the closet we are going to get anywhere in the near future breaking the terrain model then rebuilding them after the duration is over. It takes them 5 months just make a frog

SatlyJan 18, 20161 votes

Fair enough. xD

Hyrum GraffJan 19, 20161 votes

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Goddamn, you beat me to it.

Jeddy017Jan 18, 20163 votes

You're right,we need a champ with an ability that breaks the 4th wall.

Maximum MordeJan 18, 20161 votes

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You're right,we need a champ with an ability that breaks the 4th wall.

Morde already does this. "You only have to click once, fool!"

elon wątrobaJan 19, 20161 votes

So does primetime draven :D

TheDeviceJan 18, 20163 votes

Sion Ult max range should break terrain

Sneakyy XDJan 18, 20161 votes

Not only have they thought about it, but they've already created a champion with that ability.

Lazypeon100Jan 18, 20161 votes

They haven't though. They made Bard which has the same function, but he doesn't break the terrain like the OP describes. There's a big thematic difference if not a gameplay one to say the least.