Kayn or Graves

That is a ridiculous question. Get whichever one appeals to you, who cares about other peoples opinions.

Kayn is the unobjectively the better of the two as a jungler right now, in the most general sense, because he has faster clears and more potential to get successful ganks off. That might not always be the case as more patches arrive but as it stands he's just a real juicy pick in comparison.

He DOESN'T have a cigar, though, so Graves definitely takes-the-cake in that respect.

I'd honestly suggest playing junglers in the free-week rotation to find one you're interested in playing instead of going straight to either. Kayn can be tricky because he's really high-risk and so reliant on timing, Graves' lack of lock-downs can make him really frustrating to play at times, and there are probably better ones to learn with like . At the end of the day its up to you, though, just play what you like!!

kayn

if u are new to the game i recommend u try some of the easy junglers to get used to it like warwick or xin zhao but between kayn and graves kayn is the better choice(maybe im biased cuz im a kayn main :D ) imo kayn is one of the best junglers and champion designs overall he has fast clears and can gank any lane with no problem thanks to his e that goes through walls also u can choose your role in game whatever your team needs u thats what u choose,when u already have tanks/bruisers but no assassins and the enemies have strong squishies then go assassin kayn to oneshotem if u have no tank or/and the enemy has 1-2 strong tanks go rhaast assassin kayn pros:can oneshot,carry the game,really fast cons:too squishy if u miss the combo or get cced hard u will die extremely fast rhaast pros:as rhaast u are an offtank if your early was good then u will also deal some very good amount of damage otherwise your use will be cc and damage absorption,if u have lots of enemy tanks then thats your paradise because tanks do not deal as much damage as a bruiser mage or marksman does but they are hard to die but as rhaast so are u with these targets u keep getting your hp back making u basically immortal and when and if they manage to get u to low hp u can ult on a tank and get literally your full hp back(and with guardian angel u will make then ragequit) srr if some of my english are bad :/

Thanks everyone. I'll go with kayn