A Flaw? I hope I'm wrong... Could S Ranks Become Impossible?

Gardaen··1 votes·723 views

Ive had a couple of posts recently complaining about not being able to S, but I think that while everyone is focusing on the HOW TO and not the WHY for the grading system. First off, as most who have done research know, your grade is based on how well you do compared to other players worldwide in that position with that champion. Thats all rito here tells us, at least. It might be easier for support, but thats because nobody ever want to play there. (Its a good position to play in reality, just no kill glory.) As for the rest of us, this possible scenario I found could come about a hell of a lot faster. So. The flaw. So we will take ten players playing with one champ, in one position. All of them want S ranks, but only the best of them can have it. So the others manage to get someone to beat that score. Now that player is the standard for S ranks. The players keep trying to get better and better, having higher and higher scores to get an S. After a time, nobody can beat the top score. Not even the best of them, who still wants to get better. So its impossible to get an S now. See how this plays out now? With everyone in the international playerbase, even if divised by ranks levels and elos tries to go for S, the, it becomes impossible. Could this be so?

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M0RDEKA1SER3 votes

I'm pretty sure it takes the average of all players of that champ and lane, not the best/top player.

Gardaen1 votes

If it were the average between everything than players with especialy high scores should be getting s ranks, right? Also do you have anything released by Riot that says it? Im sorry but Im being cautious.

M0RDEKA1SER1 votes

No, but I assumed you made this post in order to receive feedback, so I gave it.

I am basing my assumption off of the fact you could earn grades in the RGM matches. Letter grades were much easier to get on certain champions because no one played them. I got an S+ on Yorick my 2nd time ever playing him. I'm assuming it's because I did well that match and I didn't really have any competition.

Every match I played Mordekaiser, I got an S- or better, I'm assuming again, for the same reason.

Gardaen1 votes

If this were the case then I shouldn't be having such a hard time getting an S or S+ with Kennen while my friends manage to do it with Anivia and Yasuo. And also this just reinforces my statement from before. Because nobody plays it, its easier. Also I never said that Elos are not divided, and I also might add that I only generalized. There might be the fact I'm completely wrong. And in this generalization comes the fact I did not include grades with - or + in them. Just an S in general. So maybe you could get S-, just not S or higher.

M0RDEKA1SER1 votes

There was another thread similar to this one that I commented on. I wish I could find it. It would save me some time. Anyways, here goes.

Say, out of 100 games, I'll use a champion you mentioned here, there is a Yasuo. In 20 of these games, these players main Yasuo. 20 of the games, it's their first time playing Yasuo (oh the horror) and the other 60 have played him enough that they know how he works.

Yasuo, being as mechanically difficult as he is, isn't going going to do well in the hands of someone who's never played him. Now, many things are important when considering your grade, not just KDA, but to keep it simple, that's the only comparison I'm going to use.

Let's say the 20 new guys who pick yasuo go 2/8/2 The 60 decent players go 8/2/8 The 20 "pros" go 12/0/0

If it is based off of an average grading system, then the pros would get at least an S-, not only because they did well, but the average from the 80 other players was brought that low.

Now think about it. How many people play Yasuo? How many people play Kennan?

The less numbers in an average, the less actuate it'll be.

My experience with Kennan is, people either play him, or they don't. You kind of know immediately if you're going to like him.

His player base is almost exclusively Kennan mains. And there aren't many, so naturally, you'll have a harder time getting a good grade because you're only competing against the average of 20 other dedicated Kennan players, with very few newbies to bring the average down for you.

Gardaen1 votes

This makes quite a bit of sense, but that might be only for Kennen. And as you said, some people know what theyre doing. So if that many people are competing as Yasuo that maybe more people are willing to become better and get an S rank. With all the averages, and people getting better, S ranks become harder and harder to get.

Hethalean2 votes

You forgot a certain 'No' answer. It is not an 'All Time High Score!!!' If everyone starts sucking in a patch with a champion after a nerf / buff / overhaul, it adapts.

Gardaen1 votes

Do you have proof of this? Also I'm pretty sure rito hasn't released any details into the system.

Hethalean1 votes

I looked for it. However, I cannot find it. It was to the effect of that statistics for role position metrics were reset at a patch level.

TheEvilQueen1352 votes

let me just say it can be really hard to get an s as a support, you actually need to get kills. you go 0/0/30 sona you get an a-, a+, and MAYBE s- but you go 2/0/30 you get an s maybe an s+. 2/3/15 nami not even s-. it's nuts. unless you want to piss off teammates it's almost impossible to get an s. to get from lvl 6 to lvl 7 sona i pissed off 2 adcs and a gp by "stealing kills" (okay i stole from the gp...) and "not building like a support"(hey i built frost queen and sightstone before building ap)

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