What counters Last Whisperer

Apulon·1/26/2015, 7:58:28 PM·4 votes·1,330 views

I dont get it how this op item still exists

31 Comments

Blynx1/26/2015, 8:22:18 PM4 votes

If ADC's couldn't kill tanks then we wouldn't have a fucking game.

In other words, stop fucking complaining.

Cleaver on the other hand...

Unironic SJW1/26/2015, 8:16:23 PM4 votes

"The typical game lasts ~33 minutes and sees ~11,000 gold per player - or 3 major 3,300 gold items, 1000 in boots, and a remaining ~1,000 in consumables, starting items, and the bank."

that's the thing that people who bitch about adcs in general refuse to admit - they are failing to take decisive leads before the ADC gets big about 35 minutes into the game. That's on THEM.

"i'm a tank and the hypercarry with 6 items killed me wtf rito"

why did you let the hypercarry get to 6 items other than "you're not doing enough"

balbraaksel1/26/2015, 9:50:06 PM3 votes

You can't infinitely counter everything. An item to counter LW, then an item counter to that item, then an item counter to that item, that's just absolute insanity. :p

Beerstein1/26/2015, 9:47:29 PM2 votes

item 3800 item 3022 item 3083 item 3143 item 3068item 3116 item 2045 item 3027 item 3084 item 3065 That's right, a freaking Mres item helps counter it, now man up and build some achepee. Oh and yeah that is a freaking ruby sightstone, problem? Well freaking get warding then woman! Wards+HP could it be any more OP?

Drunk Rummate1/26/2015, 8:07:59 PM2 votes

pop on a thornmail and watch as they kill themselves along with you.

67chrome1/26/2015, 8:09:19 PM2 votes

What counters Last Whisperer

Early game.

Making any ground early directly hurts how much of an impact Last Whisper can offer.

The only reason to rush Last Whisper as a first major item is you're playing Dominion in season 2 vs. a team built entirely of tanky DPS characters. So, never. Otherwise, it's horrifically cost inefficient and a very poor first major item.

Alternatively - things like Chain Vest, Giant's Belt, Sunfire Cape, and Thornmail will allow you to pretty much AFK any champion that would ever want Last Whisper. Use champions that want to rush Sunfire Cape to respectable effectiveness in the early game and you can acquire enough of a monatary advantage Last Whisper simply can't make up the difference you edged out early on.

The typical game lasts ~33 minutes and sees ~11,000 gold per player - or 3 major 3,300 gold items, 1000 in boots, and a remaining ~1,000 in consumables, starting items, and the bank. As Last Whisper is typically a 3rd major item, and offers 0 armor penetration until the entire item is completed, it's entirely possible to win a game before it can do anything.

Considering most %Ar Pen champions tend to be late-game champions, and most tanks and bruisers are more mid-game champions, it also stands to reason you can actually make all the game-winning plays and even win the game before Last Whisper can become a problem.

Early game advantages counter Last Whisper.

Kuroi861/26/2015, 9:24:48 PM2 votes

item 3143 Health to counter penetration and armor to counter AD.

Boulderox1/29/2015, 9:56:06 PM1 votes

crit i still feel is too op in the current stage, mixed with penatration its astronomical. Also because there is nothing on the ap side such as magic crit. as there is no way to counter it or even lower the inevitability of it at lower ranks. Could fix LOTS of nerfs that hit yasuo, create an item that lowers crit chance, making him never hit 100% crit with 3 items.

Having it apply before the double crit chance too...

Tank items are so lack luster now because everyone can burn through it.

Duke Anax1/26/2015, 8:04:55 PM1 votes

item 3047 at least as far as AA are concerned.

LilxPaprika1/26/2015, 8:05:35 PM1 votes

alistar ult does, poppy ult kayle ult, garen w

i like the idea of nerfing last whisper but i think either create more characters like wukong, nasus, xin, kayle who can apply armor shred. or create another item similar to black cleaver.

by the way guys there was a post recently covering this topic : http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/zsEATWgk-i-love-having-400-armor-against-an-all-ad-team

Nucleophilic atk1/26/2015, 8:09:04 PM1 votes

Have you tried item 1029 ?

FooDang1/26/2015, 8:04:43 PM1 votes

item 2010